Which One?

[KungFooBob]

What about a nice Paramotor?

[Yorick]

What sort of thing was it doing when it did something good?

Hard front braking into downhill hairpins. Thousands on G.C. Not here.
And tight turning circle.
Had a bit of grunt in first 3 , but only on straights and screamed hard.

I think you might need a track day, not a nipping to the shops middle-ground bike

Yup. Spain mainland is too hot this time of year.
And not flying over for Cadwell when it'll probably rain

Negotiating borrowing a GSXR1000 for UK. Just one more time down Craner Curves

And can get R1 for 500€ a day at Almeria or Jerez when it cools.

[Yorick]

Hard front braking into downhill hairpins. Thousands on G.C. Not here.
And tight turning circle.
Had a bit of grunt in first 3 , but only on straights and screamed hard.

I think you might need a track day, not a nipping to the shops middle-ground bike

Yup. Spain mainland is too hot this time of year.
And not flying over for Cadwell when it'll probably rain

Negotiating borrowing a GSXR1000 for UK. Just one more time down Craner Curves

And can get R1 for 500€ a day at Almeria or Jerez when it cools.

Lol. Just got this.


No worries mate glad you're ok. If you want to have a spin round cadwell you're more than welcome to borrow my bike

Race prepped GSXR1000. The pal I started racing with in 1982.

Just need logistics

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[Yorick]

Blimey. He's offered to pick us up at Leeds/Bradford Airport and take us and bike to Cadwell
And hooked in some other dopey racer pals.

This is a goer. Need to lose weight to fit in my levvers

[Taipan]

Trying to think of something that isn't a 300 or the same as your Gix. Have you ridden an MT09? The SP version might be worth a road test for you?

[Yorick]

Trying to think of something that isn't a 300 or the same as your Gix. Have you ridden an MT09? The SP version might be worth a road test for you?

Too big and heavy. Want a light toy.

[Taipan]

ktm 525 exc motard springs to mind, but not sure that will do it if the GG7 didnt?

[Yorick]

ktm 525 exc motard springs to mind, but not sure that will do it if the GG7 didnt?

Light weight, but stopped making them

[mboy]

Trying to think of something that isn't a 300 or the same as your Gix. Have you ridden an MT09? The SP version might be worth a road test for you?

Too big and heavy. Want a light toy.

Only thing I can think of that will suit is a KTM Duke 890 R... It's 18kg over a 690 but still light for what it is. It's also got a VERY punchy motor (they often dyno power figures at the back wheel almost what is quoted at the crank!)... Chuck in stupendous brakes (Stylema's with a Brembo RCS Master cylinder on a bike weighing that little!!!), fully adjustable suspension and a decent electronics suite combined with quite a motard riding position, it's a hell of a lot of fun on twisty, bumpy roads...

So why didn't I buy one, and what did I buy instead...? I wanted something just a touch more refined and a more "conventional" naked sports bike riding experience... I bought a Ducati SFV2... It's ace!

[Yorick]

Trying to think of something that isn't a 300 or the same as your Gix. Have you ridden an MT09? The SP version might be worth a road test for you?

Too big and heavy. Want a light toy.

Only thing I can think of that will suit is a KTM Duke 890 R... It's 18kg over a 690 but still light for what it is. It's also got a VERY punchy motor (they often dyno power figures at the back wheel almost what is quoted at the crank!)... Chuck in stupendous brakes (Stylema's with a Brembo RCS Master cylinder on a bike weighing that little!!!), fully adjustable suspension and a decent electronics suite combined with quite a motard riding position, it's a hell of a lot of fun on twisty, bumpy roads...

So why didn't I buy one, and what did I buy instead...? I wanted something just a touch more refined and a more "conventional" naked sports bike riding experience... I bought a Ducati SFV2... It's ace!

I saw that bike over on Gran Canaria and does nothing for me really. It's only 5 Kgs less than my GSXR1000.
And if I have a fast bike, it needs a fairing. To me it's like a car with no windscreen.

[Taipan]

So what are you going to do? Sounds like you've put yourself up a blind alley?

[Couchy]

ktm 525 exc motard springs to mind, but not sure that will do it if the GG7 didnt?

Light weight, but stopped making them

It's a 500exc now, perfect with SM wheels for what you want

[mboy]

I saw that bike over on Gran Canaria and does nothing for me really. It's only 5 Kgs less than my GSXR1000.
And if I have a fast bike, it needs a fairing. To me it's like a car with no windscreen.

I fear you are missing the point entirely with these bikes...

Sounds like you're a die hard sports bike fan, that lives somewhere where they're totally unsuitable for the roads (to be fair, that's anywhere in the world these days)... I used to be this way too, until I realised that naked bikes and Adventure Bikes not only make more sense on the roads, they're more fun too...

Cars without windscreens are usually more fun than cars with. Not wholly practical for sure, but more fun yes. Besides, you can put a little screen on it... I did. Makes enough difference that can cruise @ 80 in comfort at least.

Naked bikes are WAY more fun on the roads than sports bikes, and every bit as capable. For sure they're not as quick on a track, but you have your GSXR1000 already so...

[Yorick]

I saw that bike over on Gran Canaria and does nothing for me really. It's only 5 Kgs less than my GSXR1000.
And if I have a fast bike, it needs a fairing. To me it's like a car with no windscreen.

I fear you are missing the point entirely with these bikes...

Sounds like you're a die hard sports bike fan, that lives somewhere where they're totally unsuitable for the roads (to be fair, that's anywhere in the world these days)... I used to be this way too, until I realised that naked bikes and Adventure Bikes not only make more sense on the roads, they're more fun too...

Cars without windscreens are usually more fun than cars with. Not wholly practical for sure, but more fun yes. Besides, you can put a little screen on it... I did. Makes enough difference that can cruise @ 80 in comfort at least.

Naked bikes are WAY more fun on the roads than sports bikes, and every bit as capable. For sure they're not as quick on a track, but you have your GSXR1000 already so...

Seems we're exact opposites. Never owned a naked bike since my CB900 in 1988.
Sports bikes are perfect for me.
Plenty of superb roads here.
And only 30 mins over to Fuertaventura to find the best riding roads I've ever seen in the world.
Then a bit further to Gran Canaria and Tenerife.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Never owned a naked bike since my CB900 in 1988.

Feck me, even I had a better bike than a CB900 in 1988

[Yorick]

Never owned a naked bike since my CB900 in 1988.

Feck me, even I had a better bike than a CB900 in 1988

I was still racing and all I could afford

[mboy]

Seems we're exact opposites. Never owned a naked bike since my CB900 in 1988.
Sports bikes are perfect for me.
Plenty of superb roads here.
And only 30 mins over to Fuertaventura to find the best riding roads I've ever seen in the world.
Then a bit further to Gran Canaria and Tenerife.

I take it you're in Lanzarote...?

Some epic tight and twisty roads there to be fair... Perfect for a Supermoto or a lightweight sporty naked bike! A GSXR1000 there...? Do you manage to get it out of 2nd gear often?

I absolutely adore sports bikes... Grew up lusting after RC30's, OW01's, 916's, RC45's etc... I've had my fair share of sports bikes over the years too, but since I opened my eyes to just how compromised sports bikes are on the road, I haven't looked back!

Good luck finding your unicorn anyway...

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Never owned a naked bike since my CB900 in 1988.

Feck me, even I had a better bike than a CB900 in 1988

I was still racing and all I could afford

To be fair I'm not sure that a tuned 350LC was better than a CB900, but it was faster and handled better.

[Yorick]

This might be it

Gonna have a test ride. Lots of folk have them over here

https://www.milanuncios.com/motos-de-ca ... 131272.htm

[KungFooBob]