I have always preferred the proper dark visor so both my Arai's (Astro R and Tour X4) are fitted with them pretty much all the time but on long trips i carry a spare clear one just in case.
Legally i cant wear one when working so my Shoei Neotec2 is ideal as it has a drop down integrated one which is completely legal, but just as dark as the race black ones on my Arai's.
I have nerve damage to the right side of my face so cannot squint my right eye in any sunlight so dark visors save me loads of grief
I've never had an issue with side pods on any of my Arai's, I could swap visors in seconds on my AstroJ, ChaserV and AxcessII, I guess I've just got the knack.
After using internal visors I'll never go back to single visors.
Turn into the sun? Dark visor down.
Turn away from the sun or into an area of difficult light? Dark visor up and I still have protection from flies and so on.
Over here I generally wear a black visor with a stick on insert. I was diagnosed with an eye problem the week before we moved here and told to avoid bright sun
The sun here is berserk.
If it's a bit darker, I can just whip the insert out.
Proper job separate dark visor for me, along with 3 lines of electrical tape.
I did like the idea of integrated visors but my head didn't fit the new shoie shape.
Claude wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:45 pm
I found when I commuted using the integrated drop down would steam/mist up. That put me off as well.
Same, even using various various sprays never really cured it. The Neotec is the only helmet I have with an integral one and, like Bigyin, its for work. I was sceptical of the first helmet with integral visors as they sat very close to my nose, and with a non rounded edge, would cut in if I had a low speed tumble (wouldn't be a serious injury but be painful and bloody)>
Claude wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 8:45 pm
I found when I commuted using the integrated drop down would steam/mist up. That put me off as well.
dayglo jim wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 10:15 pm
Same, even using various various sprays never really cured it. The Neotec is the only helmet I have with an integral one and, like Bigyin, its for work. I was sceptical of the first helmet with integral visors as they sat very close to my nose, and with a non rounded edge, would cut in if I had a low speed tumble (wouldn't be a serious injury but be painful and bloody)>
I have the same problem with the integrated steaming up my one and the only way i get round it is to have the chin vent open to get some airflow or not fully seal the clear visor which brings in wind noise unless i am behind 50cc peds on a not freezing, not windy day them i ride with the flip front up to get airflow
Thats a minor annoyance as the other day i have a 1600hrs MOT booked for the Multistrada so i wore the Neotec2 as the sun was out when i left home and set just after the MOT so drop down on the way in, clear on the way home as it was dark by the time i left as the tester is a mate so had a brew and chat ....saved me using my Arai and changing visors before the trip home. The integrated dark visors are not perfect but they have a function for the multi tasking among us.
KungFooBob wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:21 pm
I've never had an issue with side pods on any of my Arai's, I could swap visors in seconds on my AstroJ, ChaserV and AxcessII, I guess I've just got the knack.
Yep - that. Once you've worked the trick out, and practised it a bit, then it's easy and you can do it with the helmet on. I think I've popped the sidepod off maybe twice(?) swapping visors on the Arais.
Personally I prefer the simplicity of swappable visor. I've tried on a couple of helmets with integrated dark visors but I never seem to like them. Often they seem to not drop down far enough and I can 'see' the edge of the visor in my vision.
MrLongbeard wrote: Sun Nov 08, 2020 9:50 pm
along with 3 lines of electrical tape.
Oh - yeah - and that. Sitty up bike and 'race-bred' helmet means that there's a lot of sky visible.