MotoGP - Motegi

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Re: MotoGP - Motegi

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mangocrazy wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:21 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:15 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:12 pm
That'd be on them thar Bridgestones, I reckon...
Yup. Good point. Wonder why Michelin are so far behind.
I really don't know, it may have been a directive from Carmelo to slow the race pace down. That's all I can think of. I'm sure Michelin could make a tyre that's seconds a lap faster than their current tyres if they really wanted to.
I'd be happier if they made a tyre that let the riders race the whole race, rather than need to manage tyres.
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Yorick wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:26 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:21 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:15 pm
Yup. Good point. Wonder why Michelin are so far behind.
I really don't know, it may have been a directive from Carmelo to slow the race pace down. That's all I can think of. I'm sure Michelin could make a tyre that's seconds a lap faster than their current tyres if they really wanted to.
I'd be happier if they made a tyre that let the riders race the whole race, rather than need to manage tyres.
Agree completely. And I bet MM would as well... :D
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Yorick wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:26 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:21 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:15 pm
Yup. Good point. Wonder why Michelin are so far behind.
I really don't know, it may have been a directive from Carmelo to slow the race pace down. That's all I can think of. I'm sure Michelin could make a tyre that's seconds a lap faster than their current tyres if they really wanted to.
I'd be happier if they made a tyre that let the riders race the whole race, rather than need to manage tyres.
I was going to say that you never really heard much about tyre management back in the Bridegstone days, and I can't believe the bikes are leaps and bounds more powerful today then they were when Bridgestone was the chosen one. I'm pretty sure they're going for the F1 approach of who can make their tyres last the longest, which is dull.

As for aero and ride height devices - they should be banned. Those items have zero benefit for road going machines, so get rid of them. Electronics have benefitted us, so i don't have so much of a problem with that.
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Yorick wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:26 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:21 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:15 pm
Yup. Good point. Wonder why Michelin are so far behind.
I really don't know, it may have been a directive from Carmelo to slow the race pace down. That's all I can think of. I'm sure Michelin could make a tyre that's seconds a lap faster than their current tyres if they really wanted to.
I'd be happier if they made a tyre that let the riders race the whole race, rather than need to manage tyres.
Do they use one tyre manufacturer in MotoGP, if they do that's why the tyres don't last the race, because there's no competition between tyre manufacturers, and therefore no reason to improve.

I also suspect the organisers are happy with the current tyre situation as it adds "drama".
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There's no easy answer, I suspect. You can look back through rose-tinted glasses at the days when there was a free choice of tyre manufacturers, but inevitably one tyre manufacturer became dominant, and favoured a particular motorcycle manufacturer, so it became a case of which tyre manufacturer won the championship. I'd say the current control tyre works acceptably well, but as Yorick says, Michelin should be told to make tyres that last a whole race distance without appreciable drop-off so that we can actually see riders racing for the whole duration of the race.
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Felt really sorry for Aliex Esparago, he'd have likely got a podium and really reduced the gap to Fabio (who was a very lucky boy).

Great to see MIller get the win, he's been threatening for a few rounds now.

Ride of the day had to be Marc though, I haven't looked at the bookies, but I suspect he's favourite for next years' title :)
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G.P wrote: Tue Sep 27, 2022 9:33 am

Ride of the day had to be Marc though, I haven't looked at the bookies, but I suspect he's favourite for next years' title :)
Imagine if MM and the Fab Frog had decent bikes ? ;)