I use half and half white/wholemeal and to be honest it looks just the same, but is definitely not as heavy and seems to rise better. I've also started making my mixes wetter and that seems to improve the rise. Try leaving the amount of water the same and substituting half of the wholemeal flour for white.
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Thanx, I'll give that a go next time. I've tried with soda bread and various 'normal' bread recipes but none seem to like the wholewheat!! I made an awesome multigrain loaf last week and that rose how I think they should - but the wholewheat ones are always a visual disappointment and bloody heavy to eat!! I know they are going to be heavy and not rise much cos they never rise much when provingmangocrazy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:03 pmI use half and half white/wholemeal and to be honest it looks just the same, but is definitely not as heavy and seems to rise better. I've also started making my mixes wetter and that seems to improve the rise. Try leaving the amount of water the same and substituting half of the wholemeal flour for white.
Todays was quite wet, the recipe was something like 400g wholewheat (or other type) and 100g of white bread flour. So I'll definitely be trying half and half next time
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I substitute 50ml of the water for olive oil - it seems to keep the loaf moister for longer. Also use fresh yeast (if you don't already) - it's readily available in French supermarkets near us.
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Last night's baking becomes this morning's breakfast. White loaf for Mrs Mango, wholemeal for me. Flour courtesy of Gilchester Organics (unbleached in the case of the white flour).
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Those loaves look amazing!
I keep buying fresh yeast and then actually baking And the nearest place that sells it is 40 mins away I need to plan bettermangocrazy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 29, 2024 8:28 pm I substitute 50ml of the water for olive oil - it seems to keep the loaf moister for longer. Also use fresh yeast (if you don't already) - it's readily available in French supermarkets near us.
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Well, totally failed on buy gravy granules (went to the valley but went to the wrong supermarket and didn't have the arm to go to the other one!!)! So I MTFU and made some - not too bad, but there were almost no juices from roasting the joint, so it was a mix of worcestershire, soy and marmite!!!
It's ok. Not great, but it was better than no gravy. The mint sauce helped
I know it's served in a bowl - lots of reasons, but spazzyness and lack of space for big plates AND bowls!!
It's ok. Not great, but it was better than no gravy. The mint sauce helped
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Chicken and leek pies! I've gat enough pastry and filling for about 4 or 6 more, just need to make space in the freezer
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I had a baking head on today so -
Crumpets - no photo cos the batter was a bit stodgy and they didn't ocme out that well - tasted alright though
Wholemeal bread - Reckon it's the best yet, so I'm very happy (If I ever get to live somewhere with a proper sized kitchen, I really want to try an bread machine )
Malt Loaf - Originally I'd planned to make two small ones then realised I only have one small loaf tin so I made one big one. This is bloody good Some will have to go in the freezer (when I sort it out and make space in there!) and some I've sliced to take to the valley tomorrow and share with some friends
I also made liver and onions, but that really didn't come out well. The liver disintegrated So I almost have a liver, bacon and onion hash, especially when added to mash
But it's made me want to get some more lamb's liver and try again!!
Crumpets - no photo cos the batter was a bit stodgy and they didn't ocme out that well - tasted alright though
Wholemeal bread - Reckon it's the best yet, so I'm very happy (If I ever get to live somewhere with a proper sized kitchen, I really want to try an bread machine )
Malt Loaf - Originally I'd planned to make two small ones then realised I only have one small loaf tin so I made one big one. This is bloody good Some will have to go in the freezer (when I sort it out and make space in there!) and some I've sliced to take to the valley tomorrow and share with some friends
I also made liver and onions, but that really didn't come out well. The liver disintegrated So I almost have a liver, bacon and onion hash, especially when added to mash
But it's made me want to get some more lamb's liver and try again!!
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Thank you - tastes bloody good you know, even if I'm the only one that's tested it so far!!
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Not really as it doesn't need to prove/rise.
Well, if you want to mix it then put it in a bread making machine to bake it, that would probably work
Recipe here -
Grease the tin very well!!Malt Loaf
110g Sultanas
110g Raisins I used all Sultanas)
40g Unsalted butter (softened)
145ml cold black tea
175g Self raising/ gateau flour
1/4 tsp Bicarbonate of soda
1 pinch Salt
110 grams Unrefined Dark Muscovado Sugar
1 Large egg (beaten)
1 tbsp Malt extract
Step 1:
Preheat the oven to 180°C (160°C, 350°F, gas mark 4). Grease and flour a 450g/1lb loaf tin.
Step 2:
Put the sultanas, raisins, butter and tea into a pan. Bring to a boil and simmer for 5 minutes.
Remove from the heat and set aside to cool a little.
Step 3:
Sift the flour, bicarbonate of soda and salt into a mixing bowl. Stir in the sugar.
Step 4:
Pour in the warm fruit mixture and add the beaten egg and malt extract. Mix well until blended.
Step 5:
Pour into the prepared tin and bake for for 35 - 45 minutes or until a skewer inserted comes out clean. Leave in the tin for 10 minutes, then turn out onto a wire rack to cool.
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I made sausages today!!
No idea what they taste like - will test in the morning!! (Other plans for food tonight! LOL)
But, will be interesting to try with the mincer I have at home as the one I've used today creates loads of air in the sausages
I did 'play' with them a bit to try and reduce the air into the joining skins rather than the actual sausage, and I can see how it happens (pushing the meat down, then a gap, then pushing more down etc Hey ho, they'll get pricked when they're cooked I guess!!
No idea what they taste like - will test in the morning!! (Other plans for food tonight! LOL)
But, will be interesting to try with the mincer I have at home as the one I've used today creates loads of air in the sausages
I did 'play' with them a bit to try and reduce the air into the joining skins rather than the actual sausage, and I can see how it happens (pushing the meat down, then a gap, then pushing more down etc Hey ho, they'll get pricked when they're cooked I guess!!
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I saw the chef Richard Bertinet make baguettes on the James Martin show a while back. Didn't see all the demo sadly, so has been a bit of guess work. But I do love his baking! And, I do so hate having to chuck away more than half of a baguette when I buy them from the boulangerie.
So -
Very simple recipe with overnight proving in the fridge -
Never had a bread dough rise like this!! LOL
I am pretty sure I didn't 'form' them quite right, and they certainly didn't double in size whilst proving in this cloth thingy
It says to put on a wooden board or upturned baking tray, neither of which I have, so I'd heated a baking stone in the oven whilst sorting all the prep. Partly because I always figure that putting baked stuff onto a cold stone doesn't help. Anyway - in the oven (no, my feet are not in the oven!! LOL) -
Didn't get them lined up very well on the stone, but here they are!! LOL
Think they needed 'something' as they are bit heavy on the bottom, maybe (the other three are still on the stone so hopefully that will help them)
Damn that was good!!
Probably cutting the other three in half and freezing them as I think I could have cooked them a smidge longer, so whilst not exactly par baked, they could cope with a bit more cooking!!
The major downside is that whilst posting about this on an FB page, someone mentioned that Richard Bertinet runs classes. They are only in Bath
Sooo - there are a load that are now on my wish list! Right at the top as the REALLY REALLY want to list!! Not massively expensive but it'll be next year sadly. But, bread/baguettes, patisserie, croissant/viennoiserie and 2 x pastry classes!! AND he does four or five day courses, which cover some/most of whats one the others!! Dreaming
So -
Very simple recipe with overnight proving in the fridge -
Never had a bread dough rise like this!! LOL
I am pretty sure I didn't 'form' them quite right, and they certainly didn't double in size whilst proving in this cloth thingy
It says to put on a wooden board or upturned baking tray, neither of which I have, so I'd heated a baking stone in the oven whilst sorting all the prep. Partly because I always figure that putting baked stuff onto a cold stone doesn't help. Anyway - in the oven (no, my feet are not in the oven!! LOL) -
Didn't get them lined up very well on the stone, but here they are!! LOL
Think they needed 'something' as they are bit heavy on the bottom, maybe (the other three are still on the stone so hopefully that will help them)
Damn that was good!!
Probably cutting the other three in half and freezing them as I think I could have cooked them a smidge longer, so whilst not exactly par baked, they could cope with a bit more cooking!!
The major downside is that whilst posting about this on an FB page, someone mentioned that Richard Bertinet runs classes. They are only in Bath
Sooo - there are a load that are now on my wish list! Right at the top as the REALLY REALLY want to list!! Not massively expensive but it'll be next year sadly. But, bread/baguettes, patisserie, croissant/viennoiserie and 2 x pastry classes!! AND he does four or five day courses, which cover some/most of whats one the others!! Dreaming
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His book 'Dough' is worth getting and the DVD included is a bit like having a class in your own kitchen. He has a rather different way of working the dough which is quite satisfying to do and gives it a really good stretch. 'Crust' is quite good too but all the basic good stuff is in 'Dough'.Noggin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:57 am
The major downside is that whilst posting about this on an FB page, someone mentioned that Richard Bertinet runs classes. They are only in Bath
Sooo - there are a load that are now on my wish list! Right at the top as the REALLY REALLY want to list!! Not massively expensive but it'll be next year sadly. But, bread/baguettes, patisserie, croissant/viennoiserie and 2 x pastry classes!! AND he does four or five day courses, which cover some/most of whats one the others!! Dreaming
(I've bought stuff from his on-line shop too ).
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That's on my list too, but realistically I'm not going to have time to do much from August so I might hang fire and see if I can do a course in May/June 2025 cos the book is usually in the course tooCount Steer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 12:50 pmHis book 'Dough' is worth getting and the DVD included is a bit like having a class in your own kitchen. He has a rather different way of working the dough which is quite satisfying to do and gives it a really good stretch. 'Crust' is quite good too but all the basic good stuff is in 'Dough'.Noggin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 9:57 am
The major downside is that whilst posting about this on an FB page, someone mentioned that Richard Bertinet runs classes. They are only in Bath
Sooo - there are a load that are now on my wish list! Right at the top as the REALLY REALLY want to list!! Not massively expensive but it'll be next year sadly. But, bread/baguettes, patisserie, croissant/viennoiserie and 2 x pastry classes!! AND he does four or five day courses, which cover some/most of whats one the others!! Dreaming
(I've bought stuff from his on-line shop too ).
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