BSB is Go.

[weeksy]

Jason O’Halloran makes it three British Superbike wins from three at Oulton Park.

https://www.crash.net/bsb/results/98221 ... -3-results

https://www.crash.net/bsb/results/98216 ... -2-results

https://www.crash.net/bsb/results/98193 ... -1-results

Yoricks boy Kent, well, didn't do much all weekend.

[weeksy]

Knockhill in sunny Scotland this weekend. Due to tennis and cycling, you'll find the coverage on Quest this weekend

https://ww3.britishsuperbike.com/news/2 ... e-on-quest

After a dominant weekend at Oulton, can we see the same again from the Yamaha man, or will Josh Brookes get some form back.

Bennetts British Superbike Championship standings after Round 1:

1. Jason O'Halloran (McAMS Yamaha) 75
2. Christian Iddon (VisionTrack Ducati) 60
3. Peter Hickman (FHO Racing BMW) 40
4. Tarran Mackenzie (McAMS Yamaha) 34
5. Tommy Bridewell (Oxford Products Racing Ducati) 32
6. Danny Buchan (SYNETIQ BMW) 25
7. Josh Brookes (VisionTrack Ducati) 25
8. Lee Jackson (FS-3 Kawasaki) 25

[Skub]

Knockhill in sunny Scotland this weekend. Due to tennis and cycling, you'll find the coverage on Quest this weekend

https://ww3.britishsuperbike.com/news/2 ... e-on-quest

After a dominant weekend at Oulton, can we see the same again from the Yamaha man, or will Josh Brookes get some form back.

Bennetts British Superbike Championship standings after Round 1:

1. Jason O'Halloran (McAMS Yamaha) 75
2. Christian Iddon (VisionTrack Ducati) 60
3. Peter Hickman (FHO Racing BMW) 40
4. Tarran Mackenzie (McAMS Yamaha) 34
5. Tommy Bridewell (Oxford Products Racing Ducati) 32
6. Danny Buchan (SYNETIQ BMW) 25
7. Josh Brookes (VisionTrack Ducati) 25
8. Lee Jackson (FS-3 Kawasaki) 25

Ta for that. I looked at Eurosplunk and thought there was no racing this weekend.

The Aussie boi wants it this year it seems.

[G.P]

A bunch of us going down to Thruxton on 1st August (Sunday) if anyone wants to meet up?

[weeksy]

https://ww3.britishsuperbike.com/news/2 ... misses-out

1. Danny Buchan (SYNETIQ BMW)
2. Jason O'Halloran (McAMS Yamaha) +0.047s
3. Rory Skinner (FS-3 Kawasaki) +0.219s
4. Danny Kent (Buildbase Suzuki) +0.254s
5. Christian Iddon (VisionTrack Ducati) +0.255s
6. Tarran Mackenzie (McAMS Yamaha) +0.273s
7. Bradley Ray (Rich Energy OMG Racing BMW) +0.330s
8. Peter Hickman (FHO Racing BMW) +0.337s
9. Glenn Irwin (Honda Racing) +0.348s
10. Lee Jackson (FS-3 Kawasaki) +0.356s
11. Tommy Bridewell (Oxford Products Racing Ducati) +0.452s
12. Ryan Vickers (RAF Regular and Reserve Kawasaki) +0.484s

[weeksy]

https://ww3.britishsuperbike.com/news/2 ... -knockhill

1. Christian Iddon (VisionTrack Ducati)
2. Jason O'Halloran (McAMS Yamaha) +0.348s
3. Danny Buchan (SYNETIQ BMW) +0.445s
4. Bradley Ray (Rich Energy OMG Racing BMW) +4.185s
5. Rory Skinner (FS-3 Kawasaki) +4.634s
6. Tarran Mackenzie (McAMS Yamaha) +6.021s
7. Ryan Vickers (RAF Regular & Reserve Kawasaki) +6.181s
8. Tommy Bridewell (Oxford Products Racing Ducati) +7.504s
9. Lee Jackson (FS-3 Kawasaki) +9.565s
10. Josh Brookes (VisionTrack Ducati) +10.709s

[Yorick]

Top 5 in race 1 all wrong side of 30.
This is UK's top race series and no youngsters to tempt teams from MotoGP. Or even WSB.

[weeksy]

Eh? Are you sure? Race 1 today?

[Yorick]

Eh? Are you sure? Race 1 today?

I just watched it.

[Bigyin]

Top 5 in race 1 all wrong side of 30.
This is UK's top race series and no youngsters to tempt teams from MotoGP. Or even WSB.

I'll give you Iddon and O'Halloran are wrong side of 30 and where they will peak championship wise. Buchan is 28 but also not on the list for a world championship ride.

Brad Ray is 24, been on Suzuki's radar for a while as a possible on the world scene but jumping ship to BMW has probably burned those bridges

Rory Skinner is the one to watch ..... 19 years old, Talent cup winner, dominated Supersport to championship and already settling into the Superbike ride

[weeksy]

Top 5 in race 1 all wrong side of 30.
This is UK's top race series and no youngsters to tempt teams from MotoGP. Or even WSB.

I'll give you Iddon and O'Halloran are wrong side of 30 and where they will peak championship wise. Buchan is 28 but also not on the list for a world championship ride.

Brad Ray is 24, been on Suzuki's radar for a while as a possible on the world scene but jumping ship to BMW has probably burned those bridges

Rory Skinner is the one to watch ..... 19 years old, Talent cup winner, dominated Supersport to championship and already settling into the Superbike ride

Exactly my point above... those lads are deffo on the right side of 30... Sure, they may never make the big-time but they're not too old for it.

The problem isn't BSBs fault, it's club racings fault. BSB run the Talent Cup in support classe, where a rider wins a Moto3 ride potentially. So there's BSB sticking in it's option for youngsters. But the club racers don't seem to cater as well for the younger lads, being very stuck in definitions of classes that worked well 10, 15 and 20 years ago. The problem being, none of their classes are suitable for bringing in new young talent and nurturing them to the top.
https://ww3.britishsuperbike.com/support/2021/btc

Looking at the pics there, people can't say we haven't got youngsters racing, clearly we have in the UK.. but it's how we get them from there into Moto3, Moto2 and MotoGP that's the stumbling block.

[Bigyin]

Looking at the pics there, people can't say we haven't got youngsters racing, clearly we have in the UK.. but it's how we get them from there into Moto3, Moto2 and MotoGP that's the stumbling block.

Been following Casey O Gorman's progress for a couple of years and they are going the right way. Started in mini motos, through pit bikes and he was supported in the UK enough from backers to get himself into CEV Moto3 last year and did well there. This season he is British Talent Cup and already leading the championship at 13 years of age with 2 sins out of 2 races and a view to European Talent cup as well.

If continues as he is going he will be our next Moto3 rider in a couple of years when he is old enough.

Was doing well on his own but has now been picked up by Shakey Byrne as his manager so all the right doors can be opened as well

[Yorick]

Just had my first proper look at Rory Skinner. I like him. He's still riding by the seat of his pants.

He could do very well

[weeksy]

Yeah but he's the wrong side of 30.... well, 19

He did brilliantly though.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Top 5 in race 1 all wrong side of 30.
This is UK's top race series and no youngsters to tempt teams from MotoGP. Or even WSB.

I'll give you Iddon and O'Halloran are wrong side of 30 and where they will peak championship wise. Buchan is 28 but also not on the list for a world championship ride.

Brad Ray is 24, been on Suzuki's radar for a while as a possible on the world scene but jumping ship to BMW has probably burned those bridges

Rory Skinner is the one to watch ..... 19 years old, Talent cup winner, dominated Supersport to championship and already settling into the Superbike ride

Exactly my point above... those lads are deffo on the right side of 30... Sure, they may never make the big-time but they're not too old for it.

The problem isn't BSBs fault, it's club racings fault. BSB run the Talent Cup in support classe, where a rider wins a Moto3 ride potentially. So there's BSB sticking in it's option for youngsters. But the club racers don't seem to cater as well for the younger lads, being very stuck in definitions of classes that worked well 10, 15 and 20 years ago. The problem being, none of their classes are suitable for bringing in new young talent and nurturing them to the top.
https://ww3.britishsuperbike.com/support/2021/btc

Looking at the pics there, people can't say we haven't got youngsters racing, clearly we have in the UK.. but it's how we get them from there into Moto3, Moto2 and MotoGP that's the stumbling block.

Is the point of either BSB or Club Racing to feed riders to MotoGP?

Personally I don't think so, BSB exists to make money for who ever runs it, it does this by being entertaining on the telly and attracting crowds, club racing exists to entertain the people who are paying for it, the racers.

[Bigyin]

Is the point of either BSB or Club Racing to feed riders to MotoGP?

Personally I don't think so, BSB exists to make money for who ever runs it, it does this by being entertaining on the telly and attracting crowds, club racing exists to entertain the people who are paying for it, the racers.

Everybody has to start somewhere and thats at club level with the next progression normally to BSB (within its support races) as thats the National License class.

Chaz Davies, Casey Stoner, Sam and Alex Lowes all started in Superteens class at club level. Jake Dixon and Cal Crutchlow started on 600's at club level

All moved to BSB support race classes apart from Stoner. All then moved up into MotoGP or WSB paddocks .

One of the few exceptions to this was Scott Redding. He didnt do UK Club racing and straight into CEV hence his faster route into 125GP than probably any UK kid racer. When he came back to BSB he didnt know any of the circuits having only raced Donington and Silverstone.

The amount of money thrown at some kids at the club racing level is incredible and out of them 1 or 2 will make it to a decent BSB or support class ride each year. Out of all of those 1 or 2 will make it to a world championship paddock every 4-5 years

[Bigyin]

Just had my first proper look at Rory Skinner. I like him. He's still riding by the seat of his pants.

He could do very well

Kid has been around for years and should have been in the Moto3 grid 3 years ago winning the Talent cup and being Moto GP Red Bull Rookies. Somehow the money wasnt there for the ride that was available and he went back to square one with the family run bike back in the UK

[Yorick]

Just had my first proper look at Rory Skinner. I like him. He's still riding by the seat of his pants.

He could do very well

Kid has been around for years and should have been in the Moto3 grid 3 years ago winning the Talent cup and being Moto GP Red Bull Rookies. Somehow the money wasnt there for the ride that was available and he went back to square one with the family run bike back in the UK

Yeah, Witham mentioned all that. He's proving he can ride any sort of bike, well.

[weeksy]

The young Skinner flew again.

https://ww3.britishsuperbike.com/news/2 ... n-race-two

Great from Buchan again though too.

Should tighten up the race at the top.

Wtf is wrong with Brookes on the other Ducati though?

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Is the point of either BSB or Club Racing to feed riders to MotoGP?

Personally I don't think so, BSB exists to make money for who ever runs it, it does this by being entertaining on the telly and attracting crowds, club racing exists to entertain the people who are paying for it, the racers.

Everybody has to start somewhere and thats at club level with the next progression normally to BSB (within its support races) as thats the National License class.

Chaz Davies, Casey Stoner, Sam and Alex Lowes all started in Superteens class at club level. Jake Dixon and Cal Crutchlow started on 600's at club level

All moved to BSB support race classes apart from Stoner. All then moved up into MotoGP or WSB paddocks .

One of the few exceptions to this was Scott Redding. He didnt do UK Club racing and straight into CEV hence his faster route into 125GP than probably any UK kid racer. When he came back to BSB he didnt know any of the circuits having only raced Donington and Silverstone.

The amount of money thrown at some kids at the club racing level is incredible and out of them 1 or 2 will make it to a decent BSB or support class ride each year. Out of all of those 1 or 2 will make it to a world championship paddock every 4-5 years

I agree with all of that, but I don't see what it's got to do with what I posted, IMO the purpose of club racing isn't to produce riders for MotoGP, that it's the only way to get racing experience in the UK means GP riders will have done it.