User ban : Keep your racist comments to yourselves !

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User ban : Keep your racist comments to yourselves !

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Hey, i'm not one to judge, if some of you are racists that's OK, i can't make your decisions in life for you..... But they won't be accepted out here on the forum, not now, not ever... No sir, no way.

So after the rubbish posted by Asian Boss the other day he was given a warning...

Then ZRX61 comes in and throws in a race bomb this morning... He's been given 7 days off. If it wasn't for the fact i'd closed a thread recently for the exact same shit, then he may have only got 1 day or a warning, but coming straight in with shit like this just after i closed a thread, you're taking the piss out of me and the forum and i'm not accepting it.
No comments about the lack of mask from shoppers, staff or the many security peeps patrolling the place... altho to be fair, the security guards seem unable to notice white people & are usually seen profiling/shadowing the less pale among us.
So, just to make things clear here to all of you.

RACIST comments even when hidden, veiled, clouded, won't be accepted. You WILL get banned, simple as that. If you don't like this, fuck off and go somewhere else, anywhere else, i simply don't care where. This isn't a discussion, a debate and i'm not open to interpretation on it...
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Your forum, your rules. I don't know what those banned said, nor the context, so I will assume you know what you are about.

However PLEASE don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Racism is wrong, no ifs or buts, skin colour has absolutely no place in judging folks, but if we can't TALK about it nothing will ever change. And we do need to change, in UK society and in most other societies too. This place is already very civilized, some might say sanitized, compared to the other place. I would hate to see another whole raft of ideas/opinions on the proscribed list.
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Your choice mate but that sentence (admittedly with no context) seems to be highlighting the racist profiling by security guards no?
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Nidge wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 8:01 am Your choice mate but that sentence (admittedly with no context) seems to be highlighting the racist profiling by security guards no?
My point is, even if there's racial profiling by a security guard, unless you're actively looking in a racist context how would you know ? You can't see what a security guy is staring at. It's someones beliefs that's what he's doing.

There's no place for the comment, it was completely irrelevant to the thread, the topic and was purely in a context of race IMO

Hey if everyone here thinks i'm wrong, sure, tell me, but if it smells like fish, it's a fish IMO
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AB isn't a rassist though, he's just prodding the rassists in parody. I think that needs clarifying and frankly I'm surprised that wasn't obvious.

But yeah, your rules natch'.
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DefTrap wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 8:34 am AB isn't a rassist though, he's just prodding the rassists in parody. I think that needs clarifying and frankly I'm surprised that wasn't obvious.

But yeah, your rules natch'.
1. Are you sure ?
2. Does that make it right ? He's prodding without being prodded, he's prodding at no-one who's commented, more about racists in the world, but if they're not in this forum posting comments, what is the point unless to incite ?
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DefTrap wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 8:34 am AB isn't a rassist though, he's just prodding the rassists in parody. I think that needs clarifying and frankly I'm surprised that wasn't obvious.

But yeah, your rules natch'.
He's a shit stirrer and knows exactly what he's doing.
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Cousin Jack wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 7:53 am This place is already very civilized, some might say sanitized, compared to the other place. I would hate to see another whole raft of ideas/opinions on the proscribed list.
I've said it before and i'll repeat it again.

This place isn't the old Visordown, it's not the old TRC either. For better or worse we're sticking to our guns on this forum. In the last place people were hounded, abused, berated, newbies were dissed instantly and made unwelcome and bullying was rife on the forum. That's unacceptable for me and by allowing 1 part, 1 aspect, you're putting the noose around your own neck to allow the next bit then the next bit etc.

This forum will remain a welcome, friendly place...

Even if i'm the only one in it :)
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Yorick wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 9:32 am He's a shit stirrer ...
Yes, that's the point.
Yorick wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 9:32 am ... and knows exactly what he's doing.
It's a shame you didn't get it then.
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DefTrap wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 9:45 am
Yorick wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 9:32 am He's a shit stirrer ...
Yes, that's the point.
Yorick wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 9:32 am ... and knows exactly what he's doing.
It's a shame you didn't get it then.
Does that make using racist innuendo, comments, assertions OK then ? Pointing out someone has a 'chocolate face' is just wrong, whether it's to make a point or not... it's wrong and unacceptable.
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DefTrap wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 9:45 am
Yorick wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 9:32 am He's a shit stirrer ...
Yes, that's the point.
Yorick wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 9:32 am ... and knows exactly what he's doing.
It's a shame you didn't get it then.
He's hiding his racism behind a cheeky grin and funny quips. But it's there.
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There seems to be a fundamental misunderstanding of the difference befween satyre and belief as far as other peoples views of Asian Boss are concerned.

>shrug<
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Unless I'm a poor judge of character (on the internet that's possible) I don't think there's a racist bone in the Pony's body.
Yes he does like to stir,but we all do that with friends on occasion. He's a flavour and a character,I don't espouse some of his views,but I think tongue is firmly lodged in cheek in this instance.
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OK, so after discussions on this thread i've lowered ZRX61's ban to a 24 hour ban. I still believe the comments of 'chocolate face' cannot be allowed here.

Asian Boss was never on a ban, only a system warning. That still stands and will expire in 30 days. However, as much as some of you find his comments amusing and acceptable, doesn't mean i do. Tongue in cheek doesn't always make things right IMO.

That all seem fair ?
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Works for me. 8-)
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I've changed my mind - string him up!
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DefTrap wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 11:18 am I've changed my mind - string him up!
Pitchforks and a nice fire would be more fun to watch.
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Can we ban Bigyin for being so ugly?
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Cousin Jack wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 11:37 am
DefTrap wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 11:18 am I've changed my mind - string him up!
Pitchforks and a nice fire would be more fun to watch.
Tie him to a stake, on a pile of dry faggots.
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JackyJoll wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 12:31 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 11:37 am
DefTrap wrote: Mon May 10, 2021 11:18 am I've changed my mind - string him up!
Pitchforks and a nice fire would be more fun to watch.
Tie him to a stake, on a pile of dry faggots.
Now we've got Homophobia !!!!
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