In todays light hearted look at the (non-political) news

[MrLongbeard]

Pffft, you ain't ain't even got real pleather, and my limo tint will keep things discreet.

[Yorick]

Pffft, you ain't ain't even got real pleather, and my limo tint will keep things discreet.

Genuine LOL

[Horse]

But 46mph in a 40 limit on the M4. Whatever happened to 10% plus 2 mph?

With my maths:
40 +
+ 10% = 4
+ 2
= 46

Which is what she was nicked for.

It's the threshold for being nicked, not for turning a blind eye.

[Taipan]

In the same article: Zoe Wanamaker was also fined and banned for speeding, also with 9 points already on her licence. But 46mph in a 40 limit on the M4. Whatever happened to 10% plus 2 mph?

Long gone, something to do with legal requirement of speedo accuracies from manufacturers etc?

[Count Steer]

But 46mph in a 40 limit on the M4. Whatever happened to 10% plus 2 mph?

With my maths:
40 +
+ 10% = 4
+ 2
= 46

Which is what she was nicked for.

It's the threshold for being nicked, not for turning a blind eye.

+ chances are her speedo was reading 50-ish. IIIRC the rule for manufacturers is speedos must not under-read but can over-read by up to 10% so they all err on the side of caution and they tend to over-read. I think every vehicle (2 and 4 wheel) I've had has had a slightly optimistic speedo (when compared to a GPS) by between 5 and 10% - but not necessarily totally linear across the range. I'll often do limit+10% indicated but she was probably looking at limit+25%.

[MrLongbeard]

In the same article: Zoe Wanamaker was also fined and banned for speeding, also with 9 points already on her licence. But 46mph in a 40 limit on the M4. Whatever happened to 10% plus 2 mph?

ACPO guideline only, not the law

[Horse]

In the same article: Zoe Wanamaker was also fined and banned for speeding, also with 9 points already on her licence. But 46mph in a 40 limit on the M4. Whatever happened to 10% plus 2 mph?

ACPO guideline only, not the law

NPCC now

Met say:
https://www.met.police.uk/foi-ai/metrop ... hresholds/


Q1 - What are the Met's speed camera enforcement thresholds (tolerances)?

The Met’s speed camera enforcement threshold is 10% + 2mph.

The Met observes the current NPCC guidelines which states that enforcement action should commence as soon as a speed that is at +10% +2mph. This is normally the minimum speed at which enforcement is undertaken in all speed limits. The minimum speed at which a speed camera is operated may be varied at any time but there are no plans to use a threshold that is not contained in the current guidance. NPCC guidance also states that whilst tolerances exist, they do not and cannot replace police officers’ discretion.

FWIW, Byker28i, of Visordown, was nicked for 41 in a 40.

[Saga Lout]

But 46mph in a 40 limit on the M4. Whatever happened to 10% plus 2 mph?

With my maths:
40 +
+ 10% = 4
+ 2
= 46

Which is what she was nicked for.

It's the threshold for being nicked, not for turning a blind eye.

+ chances are her speedo was reading 50-ish. IIIRC the rule for manufacturers is speedos must not under-read but can over-read by up to 10% so they all err on the side of caution and they tend to over-read. I think every vehicle (2 and 4 wheel) I've had has had a slightly optimistic speedo (when compared to a GPS) by between 5 and 10% - but not necessarily totally linear across the range. I'll often do limit+10% indicated but she was probably looking at limit+25%.

My speedo is pretty much spot on. When I check my dash cam video, the GPS speed matches my cruise control speed to within 1 mph. I.e. Cruise control set to 70, dash cam records 69 or 70.

[Horse]

My speedo is pretty much spot on. When I check my dash cam video, the GPS speed matches my cruise control speed to within 1 mph. I.e. Cruise control set to 70, dash cam records 69 or 70.

My & Filly's car are both accurate according to a couple of local SIDS, under-reading by 2 mph according to a third.

There can be lag on dash cam speed displayed. I've had '4 mph' showing briefly when stopped.

[Count Steer]

Haven't really looked at this on wife's 2025 car. Maybe speedos have got better since my car was built a few years ago (in Germany).

[ZRX61]

In the same article: Zoe Wanamaker was also fined and banned for speeding, also with 9 points already on her licence. But 46mph in a 40 limit on the M4. Whatever happened to 10% plus 2 mph?

I'd question why the fuck there was a 40mph limit on a motorway??

[KungFooBob]

In the same article: Zoe Wanamaker was also fined and banned for speeding, also with 9 points already on her licence. But 46mph in a 40 limit on the M4. Whatever happened to 10% plus 2 mph?

I'd question why the fuck there was a 40mph limit on a motorway??

I was in a 40mph limit on the M1 on my way home tonight. Smart Motorway, first slowed everyone down to 60, then 40 because junction 36 traffic was queuing into the 1st lane.

[MrLongbeard]

Bike speedo is about bob on, 2012 car reads 73 for a GPS speed of 70

[KungFooBob]

12 points to Gryffindor.

[ChrisW]

All this has reminded me that I got the double-flash just after joining the M42 13 days ago whilst, very foolishly, heading back to Cheshire when the boat had let us off in Portsmouth at a quarter to nine in the evening...

The M40 had been hateful at the top end, plus it was getting late and I still had a chunk of the M6 to look forward to in summer gear, plus I hate motorways, so I was pressing on when I got some clear air on the 42...

Fingers crossed for nothing in the post tomorrow

[Druid]

FWIW, Byker28i, of Visordown, was nicked for 41 in a 40.

I've been nicked for 34 in a 30. I was driving a BMW so I probably deserved it

[ZRX61]

I was in a 40mph limit on the M1 on my way home tonight. Smart Motorway, first slowed everyone down to 60, then 40 because junction 36 traffic was queuing into the 1st lane.

That happens here, people just move over to the shoulder, it's not rocket surgery.

[Wossname]

Our hard shoulders are only for emergency use. They need to be kept clear for the “emergency” services. And people need to be warned if L1 is queueing (sp?) ahead, hence occasional 60>50>40 limits. Sensible/simple as long as they’re used appropriately, which may not always be the case.

[Horse]

A nerd notes (it's worth knowing too):

- a speed eg '50' with flashing amber lamps is advisory
- a speed in a red circle is mandatory
- speed cameras are either:
- HASECs, yellow, usually mounted on a bracket on the left of a gantry
- above individual lanes, on the gantry

[McNab]

A nerd notes (it's worth knowing too):

- a speed eg '50' with flashing amber lamps is advisory
- a speed in a red circle is mandatory
- speed cameras are either:
- HASECs, yellow, usually mounted on a bracket on the left of a gantry
- above individual lanes, on the gantry

From what I understand, whilst only advisory, it can be taken in as a factor if the police pull you over for something else or you are involved in an accident.