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Talk To Me About Shocks ?

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The rear shock went first time I rode it as I'm a lot heavier than my little brother who gave me the bike. I took it to a recommended shop to get the forks fixed and other stuff. He said he couldn't fix the shock as it had to be sent away for nitro inserting ? Gonna be around 150€

He said he put air and oil in, but the nitro gave it the rebound. Maybe it was a language problem, but all my pals say he's good.

So maybe I'm better off getting a new one ? But I know nada :( I just need to know that it will cope with 14 stones of gorgeous Yorkshire lad on rocky ground :)

Recommendations ?

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Re: Talk To Me About Shocks ?

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First you need to find the length and stroke.

You then need to match that on the replacement.

Get exact model and year of bike and we should be able to work it out

150 euro is a bit steep for repair but only 20-30 more than here.

A new shock will be £300-900

A used will still be 150+
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Cheers. Will do that tmrw.

But what is the magic ingredient that gives the rebound damping ?
And why so expensive?
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He means nitrogen. In the lower part of the shock body there's a chamber, one side is oil filled, the other side is pressurised with nitrogen (300psi ish, depends on shock) and there's a floating piston in the middle. On fox shocks this part isn't user serviceable, it has to be sent back to a repair centre. Rockshox shocks can be done by anyone with the correct tooling.
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weeksy wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:11 pm First you need to find the length and stroke.

You then need to match that on the replacement.

Get exact model and year of bike and we should be able to work it out

150 euro is a bit steep for repair but only 20-30 more than here.

A new shock will be £300-900

A used will still be 150+
Here ya go :)
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The shock has Orange 5 logo on so was made for the bike.

Will a new one be better than this one repaired?

Don't wanna Chuck money away as don't use it that much. But hope I'll like it and ride it more.

Oh and I use it as much on road as dirt.

Ta.
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Yorick wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:42 pm
weeksy wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:11 pm First you need to find the length and stroke.

You then need to match that on the replacement.

Get exact model and year of bike and we should be able to work it out

150 euro is a bit steep for repair but only 20-30 more than here.

A new shock will be £300-900

A used will still be 150+
Here ya go :)

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The shock has Orange 5 logo on so was made for the bike.

Will a new one be better than this one repaired?

Don't wanna Chuck money away as don't use it that much. But hope I'll like it and ride it more.

Oh and I use it as much on road as dirt.

Ta.
Lol it has to be exact. Like really exact.

Shock may be 215mm or even 216mm for example but are different. 2mm or 5mm in length can be the difference between it working or not. The wrong length could mean one part of your frame hits another part for example.
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You have a Fox Float RP23 which in its day was a decent enough shock. A new £150 shock will be a cheap but new version of a shock. But technically will work of course.

https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topi ... ke-length/

Implies your shock is 190x51mm

https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from ... m&_sacat=0

Bear in mind that fitting kits are different so getting a Fox would be easier

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOX-Float-RP ... ondition=4

But still the same sort of price.
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weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:48 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:42 pm
weeksy wrote: Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:11 pm First you need to find the length and stroke.

You then need to match that on the replacement.

Get exact model and year of bike and we should be able to work it out

150 euro is a bit steep for repair but only 20-30 more than here.

A new shock will be £300-900

A used will still be 150+
Here ya go :)

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The shock has Orange 5 logo on so was made for the bike.

Will a new one be better than this one repaired?

Don't wanna Chuck money away as don't use it that much. But hope I'll like it and ride it more.

Oh and I use it as much on road as dirt.

Ta.
Lol it has to be exact. Like really exact.

Shock may be 215mm or even 216mm for example but are different. 2mm or 5mm in length can be the difference between it working or not. The wrong length could mean one part of your frame hits another part for example.
Length 190 (oops measured full length initially )
Stroke 80.
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Won't be 80 fella. Honest
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weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:02 pm Won't be 80 fella. Honest
I meant the open part of the unit.
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Yorick wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:12 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:02 pm Won't be 80 fella. Honest
I meant the open part of the unit.
Yeah i get you.

I'm still seeing sending it off for a rebuild as the best option though you know.
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weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:15 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:12 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:02 pm Won't be 80 fella. Honest
I meant the open part of the unit.
Yeah i get you.

I'm still seeing sending it off for a rebuild as the best option though you know.
Seems the way to go perhaps. Then they'll set it all up for me.

I've learned a bit. Thanks.
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Yorick wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:17 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:15 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:12 pm
I meant the open part of the unit.
Yeah i get you.

I'm still seeing sending it off for a rebuild as the best option though you know.
Seems the way to go perhaps. Then they'll set it all up for me.

I've learned a bit. Thanks.
I know more about bicycles than I do motorbikes arguably
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weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:19 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:17 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:15 pm

Yeah i get you.

I'm still seeing sending it off for a rebuild as the best option though you know.
Seems the way to go perhaps. Then they'll set it all up for me.

I've learned a bit. Thanks.
I know more about bicycles than I do motorbikes arguably
I fall off the Husky far more than the MTB :)