Depression

[Noggin]

Basically what Taipan said - it is NOT a capitulation

Sometime in life we have to take a few steps back, go somewhere comfortable/safe and then rebuild to restart

You don’t HAVE to keep going forwards. Sometimes taking stock and being at home is worth everything

Good luck for the appointment and hugs to you all. xxx

I feel that uni life lacks the structure she needs. She's awake all night, stressing, then sleeping in 'til afternoon. Her sleep health is crap, her nutrition is crap and she's becoming a recluse. All this is a vicious circle of declining mental health.
If she comes home, there will be a routine. I'm not talking Full Metal Jacket shouty drill sergeant, but she will need to get into a routine, eat well, sleep well, exercise, take breaks from social media. Maybe I can get C5 to arrange a 10 day break on a desert island...

Ultimately, us parents, the medical professionals, the counsellors, etc., can only provide the tools. She is the only one who can make herself better.

Frustrating and very saddening.

But you are giving her the support to enable her to make steps. That’s the most important thing. Without that, it’s a million times more difficult xxx

[Yorick]

Basically what Taipan said - it is NOT a capitulation

Sometime in life we have to take a few steps back, go somewhere comfortable/safe and then rebuild to restart

You don’t HAVE to keep going forwards. Sometimes taking stock and being at home is worth everything

Good luck for the appointment and hugs to you all. xxx

I feel that uni life lacks the structure she needs. She's awake all night, stressing, then sleeping in 'til afternoon. Her sleep health is crap, her nutrition is crap and she's becoming a recluse. All this is a vicious circle of declining mental health.
If she comes home, there will be a routine. I'm not talking Full Metal Jacket shouty drill sergeant, but she will need to get into a routine, eat well, sleep well, exercise, take breaks from social media. Maybe I can get C5 to arrange a 10 day break on a desert island...

Ultimately, us parents, the medical professionals, the counsellors, etc., can only provide the tools. She is the only one who can make herself better.

Frustrating and very saddening.

I'm sure her knowing that you and others are there for her, will be very reassuring.
Lots of folk don't have that support.

Keep up the good work.

[Yorick]

Over the last year I realised that I had to separate the anxiety and depression.
The anxiety will probably always be there but I thought I could help the depression by self help.
Looking up at the sea view when I was skulked on the sofa. When the black hole appeared, think of the bikes and good things.
When unhappy, think of what we've got.

That's simplifying it, but it seems to have worked.
Woke up a month ago and like I'd been drugged or hypnotised.

Just feeling good all the time. No need to go to bed or lie on the sofa till "it" passes.

Wowsers. It feels great

The anxiety still there, but easier to cope with by itself.
I asked a while ago about gloves and tyre pressure gauge. Still can't choose as searching & choosing overwhelms me.
But I can cope with that.

When I need clothes, I can't choose, so the missus comes with me and holds up things for me to choose.

[MyLittleStudPony]

Getting set to take the train to Manchester, as we have booked a doctor's appointment up there for the Gremlinette on Saturday morning. Over the past few weeks she's got to the point where she's not going out, has described her life as being devoid of any joy and having the constant feeling/fear of soiling herself, which is no doubt linked to the incident on the 'plane a few months ago where she was physically ill and had an upset stomach the whole of the flight. I suspect anti-depressants will be prescribed, as it sounds very much like the black dog has decided to spend some time with her.

Mrs. G was going up anyway, but I want to be in on the appointment so we can all try to figure a path forward. I'm very lucky to have an employer that provides bloody good medical care.

Much debate as to whether she's better up in Manny or back home with us. I'd love for her to stay with her friends and work this out for herself, albeit with professional help. Coming home feels like capitulation.



Saturday is also her 20th birthday. She should be having the time of her life, instead she can barely bring herself to get out of bed and get dressed. Not how I imagined my funny, out-going, vivacious and fun-loving daughter would spend her 20th.

Some people are against anti depressants, but they can be the right thing for some people / situations. Don't feel like it's a bad thing if she ends up giving them a go.

From what you say, I assume she's accessing counselling / other relevant therapy / assistance.

My aunt used to work in the field and says 'nothing happens quickly with mental health', which I think is generally correct.

Best wishes and good luck with it.

[the_priest]

I am dealing with a couple of people going through depression, anxiety and thoughts of self harm/suicide. One of the biggest things is to help them be referred to decent services who will actually listen to them and help them. I am not an expert in these issues, I can listen and pray, but being referred to the correct services is so important. Sometimes we have to speak the truth clearly and without embellishment, but just sometimes we have to love them gently and help them to know they have value and deserve respect and a chance at life.

My little girl is going through the motions of eating and getting counselling, but the road is a very long one and she is still not seeing that with some things she has to take charge and responsibility. At least today, she walked in the rain to the local Aldi with her mum to get some wool for an art project she is working on. Right now she is doing something with modelling clay, back on some medications, and trying to move forward.

[Silly Car]

Apologies, I haven't read the thread but...

I just wanted to share with you a little trick I've recently learnt to help me stay positive.

In my phone, in the notes section, I made a page titled "good things are always happening"

Every day or two I try to add something.
This morning it was the €10 note I found while walking the dog.

2 days ago it was an unexpected "paid clean" and some beers left for me as a thank you by guests.

Every time I open the document, I am reminded of good things from a few days ago that I might otherwise have forgotten all about. Eg the 90's Fireblade sidecar outfit I saw a couple weeks ago.

This might not work for everybody, but I urge you to give it a go and see what happens

HTH

I mentioned this idea to my counsellor the other day and that I’d tried to put it into practice and was helping me on some of my darker moments as it gave me a positive memory to help ‘break’ the vicious downward spiral those moments can lead to. She thought it was a brilliant idea and promptly said she would use it with other clients.

We also discussed how bad moments always felt 100 fold worse than a single good moment, but in reality, should have equal weighting. Simple but powerful when trying to combat those really shit times. Very hard to do though.

I’ve found other mechanisms for breaking the downers, simple things like doing something different in the moment, e.g. taking dog out, putting the kettle on for a brew, taking the car to the car wash, picking up some groceries*, anything to make a change.

Simple things but based around the old saying of ‘the devil makes work for idle hands’


* 30 mile round trip with the roof down and tunes blaring for 4 pints of milk and a bar of chocolate may appear extreme, but it did the trick.

[Wscad]

Sometimes this thread goes quiet for 2 or 3 weeks. Dark clouds from time to time pay me a visit.

The recent posts have been good for me if that makes sense to anyone and for that I am grateful

Keep this thread going everyone

[silver991]

How about CBD for depression? Anyone tried it?
I'm thinking of going to one of the medical cannabis clinics here, Lyphe, and getting a consultation. Maybe it's worth trying.

[Yorick]

How about CBD for depression? Anyone tried it?
I'm thinking of going to one of the medical cannabis clinics here, Lyphe, and getting a consultation. Maybe it's worth trying.

My work paid for an expensive CBD councillor. Did bugger all for me.
But have heard it can help others.

[JamJar]

How about CBD for depression? Anyone tried it?
I'm thinking of going to one of the medical cannabis clinics here, Lyphe, and getting a consultation. Maybe it's worth trying.

My work paid for an expensive CBD councillor. Did bugger all for me.
But have heard it can help others.

That's CBT (Cognitive Behavioural Therapy) he means CBD (Cannabidiol) which is the medicinal chemical found in Cannabis

[Yorick]

How about CBD for depression? Anyone tried it?
I'm thinking of going to one of the medical cannabis clinics here, Lyphe, and getting a consultation. Maybe it's worth trying.

My work paid for an expensive CBD councillor. Did bugger all for me.
But have heard it can help others.

That's CBT (Cognitive Behavioural Therapy) he means CBD (Cannabidiol) which is the medicinal chemical found in Cannabis

Oops

[Taipan]

Thought cannabis lead to anxiety? That said i've seen the vids of its effects on parkinsons and kids with seizures etc

[Noggin]

Thought cannabis lead to anxiety? That said i've seen the vids of its effects on parkinsons and kids with seizures etc

My understanding is that some strains can cause issues (paranoia in later life, messed up brains immediately - seen it with friends of a similar age some had effects when young, others suffer massively with paranoia later)

HOWEVER - good CBD oil is not supposed to do that. All the 'druggy' effects are removed (or not used) and the good, useful bits are left.

Only my very unscientific understanding of what people have explained to me!!


I've tried it for pain relief and it did as much as opiates do - sod all!! But a mate has gotten his ability to ski-tour back due to taking CBD oil. So - very person dependent I think. And probably the same for any condition it's taken for - everyone is slightly different!!!

[Count Steer]

Oddly enuff, this popped up today. A sciency study - cannabis/THC...DNA changes and psychosis.

https://theconversation.com/high-potenc ... 20research

[mangocrazy]

Oddly enuff, this popped up today. A sciency study - cannabis/THC...DNA changes and psychosis.

https://theconversation.com/high-potenc ... rch-241384

I was hoping for a bit (ok, a lot) more in the way of conclusions other than 'using high-potency cannabis alters DNA methylation'. And they also define high potency cannabis as having more than 10% THC, when there are products available that contain 90% THC (oils and waxes). So all a bit wooly and inconclusive, really.

Perhaps they'd been sampling before writing up the results...

[Count Steer]

Oddly enuff, this popped up today. A sciency study - cannabis/THC...DNA changes and psychosis.

https://theconversation.com/high-potenc ... rch-241384

I was hoping for a bit (ok, a lot) more in the way of conclusions other than 'using high-potency cannabis alters DNA methylation'. And they also define high potency cannabis as having more than 10% THC, when there are products available that contain 90% THC (oils and waxes). So all a bit wooly and inconclusive, really.

Perhaps they'd been sampling before writing up the results...

I haven't read the original paper, this summary just happened to land in my inbox when people on here were talking about anxiety. I think the conclusion is that they detected changes in the DNA more frequently in people who developed psychosis and linked that to THC intake. ie it might not be the best solution for self-treating anxiety....but I guess it might work for some?

[demographic]

Thought cannabis lead to anxiety? That said i've seen the vids of its effects on parkinsons and kids with seizures etc

My understanding is that some strains can cause issues (paranoia in later life, messed up brains immediately - seen it with friends of a similar age some had effects when young, others suffer massively with paranoia later)

HOWEVER - good CBD oil is not supposed to do that. All the 'druggy' effects are removed (or not used) and the good, useful bits are left.

Only my very unscientific understanding of what people have explained to me!!


I've tried it for pain relief and it did as much as opiates do - sod all!! But a mate has gotten his ability to ski-tour back due to taking CBD oil. So - very person dependent I think. And probably the same for any condition it's taken for - everyone is slightly different!!!

Any information regarding magic mushroom usage and later life?
Asking for a friend like.

[Noggin]

Thought cannabis lead to anxiety? That said i've seen the vids of its effects on parkinsons and kids with seizures etc

My understanding is that some strains can cause issues (paranoia in later life, messed up brains immediately - seen it with friends of a similar age some had effects when young, others suffer massively with paranoia later)

HOWEVER - good CBD oil is not supposed to do that. All the 'druggy' effects are removed (or not used) and the good, useful bits are left.

Only my very unscientific understanding of what people have explained to me!!


I've tried it for pain relief and it did as much as opiates do - sod all!! But a mate has gotten his ability to ski-tour back due to taking CBD oil. So - very person dependent I think. And probably the same for any condition it's taken for - everyone is slightly different!!!

Any information regarding magic mushroom usage and later life?
Asking for a friend like.

Totally asking the wrong person!! I"m pretty much the straightest person I know when it comes to drugs!! The only time I smoked pot in my 20's was secondary smoking at a party. Driving home at what seemed like 312 miles an hour put me off actually trying it for myself!! (We were driving at about 20mph!! LOL)

So, sorry lovely, you'll have to find someone that knows!!

[Wscad]

I did have a go at that cbd thing. It didn’t help.

Over the last few days I’ve been trying turmeric

It has improved my well being and mood/day to day stuff if that makes sense to anyone

[gremlin]

Last time I smoked a joint in Thailand I had to hold onto the edge of the bed in case I got swallowed up by it and got very, very anxious about a glass of water that was on the bedside cabinet in case I knocked it off and walked on broken glass, to the point that Mrs. G had to take it out of the room.

I'll stick to a nice glass of red in the future.