Olympics, who's watching ?

[Yorick]

Just realised that all the Brits are wearing black

WTF. Where's the red, white and blue?

[Yorick]

Today I saw a bloke beating the shit out of a woman.

Normally he'd get prison.

This time he'll get a gold medal.

[weeksy]

Today I saw a bloke beating the shit out of a woman.

Normally he'd get prison.

This time he'll get a gold medal.

Don't be such a prick. If you want to get involved in transgender type discussions at least do it with a little bit of intelligence.

[Dodgy69]

Tbh, I didn't think she looked that hurt, she's a boxer and knows all about taking a punch. If I could be a conspiracy theorist for a moment, I reckon it was a point proving exercise.

[Dodgy69]

[Dodgy69]

[weeksy]

Don't be such a prick. If you want to get involved in transgender type discussions at least do it with a little bit of intelligence.

Weeksy gets a 7 day holiday for this post...You know the rules by now guys.

Lol yeah sure. It's my park, my ball, I can play by slightly different rules

Especially when telling someone off.

[weeksy]

All in good humour.

The world is angry enough right now.

[Timmy]

Be honest though, it is a dude. The patriarchy always wins.

[cheb]

Load sensors in the boxing gloves. Just before a fight you have to test punch a bag to establish a base level for your punching force. If you punch over that force by a predecided proportion you're disqualified on the spot.

Boxing seems an odd one for this to be problem in, it's the sport that has the most categories based on size and weight afaik. They just need more and varied categories.

Caveat: I know very little about boxing and have no desire to find out.

I'm not watching any of the rest of the Olympics either, it's interesting as a sociological thing though.

[JackyJoll]

Be honest though, it is a dude. The patriarchy always wins.

And it turns the Olympics into as big a farce as the East German lady shotputters and fake amateur status did in the good old days.

A boxing competition for women (and men who may [or may not] be slightly deformed around the willie).

[JackyJoll]

Load sensors in the boxing gloves. Just before a fight you have to test punch a bag to establish a base level for your punching force. If you punch over that force by a predecided proportion you're disqualified on the spot.

So don’t punch the bag very hard then…?

[cheb]

Load sensors in the boxing gloves. Just before a fight you have to test punch a bag to establish a base level for your punching force. If you punch over that force during the fight by a predecided proportion you're disqualified on the spot.

So don’t punch the bag very hard then…?

Sorry, forgot 'during the fight'. Now added.

[JackyJoll]

Load sensors in the boxing gloves. Just before a fight you have to test punch a bag to establish a base level for your punching force. If you punch over that force during the fight by a predecided proportion you're disqualified on the spot.

So don’t punch the bag very hard then…?

Sorry, forgot 'during the fight'. Now added.

They want to find contestants who can punch hard for their weight, avoid getting punched and win matches. I think that’s the point of the game.

The problem here is they have set up a separate category for women, but some creeps are trying to get men into it.

[gremlin]

You'll be pleased to know that FIDE, the international chess organisation, has banned trans players and has even stripped past winners of their titles.

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/18/11945935 ... s%20status.

Makes sense. Lifting those pieces from one square to another is very demanding in a physical sense, and those poor little women's feeble brains wouldn't be able to cope with the concept...

An outbreak of common sense the IOC might want to keep an eye on.

[weeksy]

For me it's a moot point. I honestly don't care if this person is male or female. I don't think women should be fighting each other in the first place. Period.

Self defence yes. Skills based combat sports yes. Attempting to deliberately hurt women with overt physical violence in full-contact boxing/MMA, no.

Who do they think they are? Men?

Why should men be allowed to beat eachother but not women ?

I'm not for or against it either way, i don't much care. But i'm curious as to why there's a difference .

[Timmy]

How do you know? Serious question.

Apparently, he had a gender stroke sex test and had XY chromosomes. The IOC run different rules to the boxing federations and have allowed the person to compete.

[Yorick]

Today I saw a bloke beating the shit out of a woman.

Normally he'd get prison.

This time he'll get a gold medal.

Don't be such a prick. If you want to get involved in transgender type discussions at least do it with a little bit of intelligence.

My reply was partly tongue in cheek after being appalled after watching the video.

It's not quite a transgender issue as we can't find out if the boxer has changed sex. More of an anomaly of nature..

Sport should be a level playing field and most sports have banned non naturally female athletes.


Algerian Imane Khelif was one of 2 boxers banned last year,'

Last year both fighters were disqualified from the world championships, with the International Boxing Association (IBA) president, Umar Kremlev, saying that DNA tests had “proved they had XY chromosomes and were thus excluded”. XY is the combination of chromosomes in males, while XX is the combination in females.

This boxer has a huge physical and strength advantage over the naturally female boxers. It's cruel and unfair to the other athletes.

I bet this won't happen at the next Olympics. Remember the NZ female weightlifter?


He's banned now

So unfair

The Italian boxer Angela Carini broke down in tears after she abandoned her bout against the Algerian Imane Khelif after 46 seconds in a fight that sparked huge controversy at the Olympics.

Khelif is one of two boxers permitted to fight at the Olympics despite being disqualified from the women’s world championships last year for failing gender eligibility tests.

In highly charged scenes at the North Paris Arena, a first punch from Khelif dislodged Carini’s chinstrap and a second smashed against her chin and bloodied her shorts. After multiple punches Carini returned to her corner and raised her hand. She fell to her knees sobbing and refused to shake Khelif’s hand after the Algerian was declared the winner.

Carini said she had pulled out after being hit harder than she had ever been hit and feared her nose was broken. “I am heartbroken,” Carini said. “I went to the ring to honour my father. I was told a lot of times that I was a warrior but I preferred to stop for my health. I have never felt a punch like this.”

The 25-year-old, from Naples, added: “I got into the ring to fight. I didn’t give up, but one punch hurt too much and so I said enough. I’m going out with my head held high.

“After the second punch, after years of experience, I felt a strong pain in the nose. I said enough, because I didn’t want. I couldn’t finish the fight after the punch to the nose. So it was better to put an end to it.

[wull]

Don't be such a prick. If you want to get involved in transgender type discussions at least do it with a little bit of intelligence.

Weeksy gets a 7 day holiday for this post...You know the rules by now guys.

Lol yeah sure. It's my park, my ball, I can play by slightly different rules

Especially when telling someone off.

Same slightly different rules as that boxer


Loving the golf, gonna be a good weekend.

[gremlin]

You'll be pleased to know that FIDE, the international chess organisation, has banned trans players and has even stripped past winners of their titles.

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/18/11945935 ... s%20status.

Makes sense. Lifting those pieces from one square to another is very demanding in a physical sense, and those poor little women's feeble brains wouldn't be able to cope with the concept...

An outbreak of common sense the IOC might want to keep an eye on.

Women don't want to play, there are far fewer women players than male. Statistically any measurement of a large population will exhibit a gaussian distribution and we only celebrate the very last few in that group. It does not take much to skew the results if you sub select and one sub group is larger than another.

The outliers on a gaussian distribution are vanishingly rare and if we are only interested in the top few from a population of millions (of chess players), there are inevitably more from the larger group (of men).

True enough, but gusset distribution works the same in terms of chess players from differing nations. Hence why Russia and the US chuck up a lot of champions and Gibraltar doesn't. Bigger pool, innit. Do we then create a different class for smaller nations?

End of the day, chess is a cerebral contest and the field, as I see it, is level enough. Hence why you regularly get 12 year-olds becoming Grand Masters. I doubt even J.K. Rowling could be arsed to post on Twitter as far as mixed chess matches go.