Classic Fords

[KungFooBob]

I'd have done just about anything for one of the those back then - a mate had a 1.9 GTi, I had an R5 GT Turbo & I was envious. Looking back I think I was better off.

I wouldn't want one now though, everything's moved on so much.

And that interior looks like a tart's boudoir.

Pug was a much better motor though. Especially in 1.9 form. A lot of wee XS 205's got 1.9s from a 405 shoehorned into them. Putting a 1.7 Renault 11 motor into a R5 wasn't unknown either.

The leg endary M16.

[Bigjawa]

I'd have done just about anything for one of the those back then - a mate had a 1.9 GTi, I had an R5 GT Turbo & I was envious. Looking back I think I was better off.

I wouldn't want one now though, everything's moved on so much.

And that interior looks like a tart's boudoir.

Pug was a much better motor though. Especially in 1.9 form. A lot of wee XS 205's got 1.9s from a 405 shoehorned into them. Putting a 1.7 Renault 11 motor into a R5 wasn't unknown either.

The leg endary M16.

Nah, a plain XU9, you could get them for peanuts at one time.

[ZRX61]

[Bigjawa]

I remember a lot of discussion about the 205 1.9 vs the 1.6.
I bet 99% of it was myth and pub stories because before the internet we didn’t really know anything and none of us were mechanics, so we’d believe anything.

People used to say the added weight of the 1.9 made it understeer, which would be hard as they're both XU engines and virtually identical in weight.

[Yambo]

The Peugeot 1.9 engine saw a lot of use. I had a 405 GTDT which had a 1.8 turbo diesel engine which they produced for about 18 months then changed to the ubiquitous 1.9.

I couldn't fault the 1.8 td except for one thing - the turbo used to cut in and out around 50 mph in 5th which was annoying when I was towing my boat. It was easily sorted by driving a wee bit slower so no big deal. Otherwise, the 1.8 engine was very good but I often wondered what the difference would have been with the 1.9. It was in a lot of different cars I think.

[dern]

I remember a lot of discussion about the 205 1.9 vs the 1.6.
I bet 99% of it was myth and pub stories because before the internet we didn’t really know anything and none of us were mechanics, so we’d believe anything.

People used to say the added weight of the 1.9 made it understeer, which would be hard as they're both XU engines and virtually identical in weight.

We had one of each at the same time. They were more or less the same to drive except the 1.6 was slower. Because of that I much preferred my 1.9 but it was more of a handful.

[dern]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/314100389303 ... gLKAJquJeQ

This car is beauty to the eye, an all time classic. I love it, I would love me an all glossy black one for myself.

Have you driven a Capri, the Mk1 is better than the later cars, but I prefer the rwd Escorts and Sierras to drive, Sierra is probably the best rwd car Ford have made.

I learned to drive in 2 litre Sierras and loved to drive them after passing my test. I ended up with a 1.8 manta b which was brilliant fun. I test drove a 2.8 Capri while I had the manta and while it looked good it felt like an antiquated barge compared to anything else I’d driven that was comparable. Always wanted a Sierra cosworth but couldn’t afford to insure one while the cars were affordable.

[Bigjawa]

The Peugeot 1.9 engine saw a lot of use. I had a 405 GTDT which had a 1.8 turbo diesel engine which they produced for about 18 months then changed to the ubiquitous 1.9.

I couldn't fault the 1.8 td except for one thing - the turbo used to cut in and out around 50 mph in 5th which was annoying when I was towing my boat. It was easily sorted by driving a wee bit slower so no big deal. Otherwise, the 1.8 engine was very good but I often wondered what the difference would have been with the 1.9. It was in a lot of different cars I think.

1.9 XUD is one of the best small diesel engines ever. I've had loads of them in everything from 306s to Boxer vans and never had a failure. Keep oil and coolant in them and they just keep going and will run on everything from old chip oil to 28 sec heating oil.

This car is beauty to the eye, an all time classic. I love it, I would love me an all glossy black one for myself.

Have you driven a Capri, the Mk1 is better than the later cars, but I prefer the rwd Escorts and Sierras to drive, Sierra is probably the best rwd car Ford have made.

I learned to drive in 2 litre Sierras and loved to drive them after passing my test. I ended up with a 1.8 manta b which was brilliant fun. I test drove a 2.8 Capri while I had the manta and while it looked good it felt like an antiquated barge compared to anything else I’d driven that was comparable. Always wanted a Sierra cosworth but couldn’t afford to insure one while the cars were affordable.

Ford wanted the Capri gone after about 1980 but people kept buying them partly because of the CI5 connection, they also had a shitload of shells lying about, the last run out Cabaret and Calypso 1.6s all had surplus shells originally meant for 2.8i's

The Manta was a far better car, but lacked the hairy arsed image of the Capri and was only a 2.0. Ironically, in Germany it did have the reputation the Capri had here and there's a load of jokes about being a Mantafahrer.

[Noggin]

I learned to drive in 2 litre Sierras and loved to drive them after passing my test. I ended up with a 1.8 manta b which was brilliant fun. I test drove a 2.8 Capri while I had the manta and while it looked good it felt like an antiquated barge compared to anything else I’d driven that was comparable. Always wanted a Sierra cosworth but couldn’t afford to insure one while the cars were affordable.

I always always wanted a Capri, but the closest I got was a Manta!! I suspect it was as good, but didn't have the street cred back then that the Capri had!! LOL Did love it though

[Bigjawa]

I always always wanted a Capri, but the closest I got was a Manta!! I suspect it was as good, but didn't have the street cred back then that the Capri had!! LOL Did love it though

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manta_jok ... prov=sfla1

[KungFooBob]

You could drive it in your Stone Island cardigan.

[MrLongbeard]

S'funny place to put a back box



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[KungFooBob]

You could drive it in your Stone Island cardigan.

Back then it might have been CP Company or Sergio Tacchini.
I was a big fan of Moschino as well and Destroy. Stone Island was in there but they weren’t the top brand.

I was going to suggest a man of your means should be looking at the 22B... then I checked the prices!

There's two on t'bay, one is £185k and the other is £240k!

Who the fuck spends that much on a Scooby?

[KungFooBob]

Twenty years ago I remember thinking, if only I had £30k, I could buy a nice bay side blue R34 GTR Skyline.

I'd need the best part of £120k for a nice one now.

[KungFooBob]

The list price on my SL was £70k.

I bought it 7 years old with 30k on the clock for £27k.

I've had it three years and it's now probably worth nearer £17k

That's crazy depreciation.

But I'll be ok with my £10k loss as I think I've had 10k of joy out of it.

[v8-powered]

Aston Martin are a pretty fickle bunch to deal with as a customer and whilst their product does look lovely, their service is pretty shocking - pricing for servicing etc. is absurd considering they are pretty much other manufacturer parts bin specials.

Friend of mine who's had some lovely cars over the years had a DB9 Volante V12 until a couple of years ago - it had been fiddled with by Kahn but not in his typical terrible way, just a subtle bodykit and wheel upgrade along with a quilted leather interior. Had full service history from an Aston main dealer but if you rejected any of their recommend service upgrades or advisories, they employed high pressure sales tactics going as far as noting your refusal on the service history. My friend got the arse with this and ended up selling it.

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[Mr. Dazzle]

Selling private would probably never happen, who’s going to buy a used £100k+ Aston Martin from a bloke on a driveway with no warranty?

Which is exactly why the depreciation is shocking.

If you're rich enough to buy one at £125k you're likely to just go "well for a bit more I could have a brand new one and choose whatever I want".

There's a fairly narrow window when people with money might be a couple of years old one...but then you're into the "who wants to buy a 6 year old £120k car?" quesiton, which is basically no-one. So then they have to fall a long way to be attractive to the people who can't/won't buy one from an AM dealer.

[Taipan]

The list price on my SL was £70k.

I bought it 7 years old with 30k on the clock for £27k.

I've had it three years and it's now probably worth nearer £17k

That's crazy depreciation.

But I'll be ok with my £10k loss as I think I've had 10k of joy out of it.

Paid £47k for my Velar about 18 months ago. I'd be lucky to see £30k back now!

[KungFooBob]

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/first- ... a-restomod

Wowzers!

If the final product looks as good as this, I'll be buying a lotto ticket!

[ChrisW]

That looks incredible. The front sort of has a last of the V8s look to it.