I may be wrong but I thought the whole rear engined range was classed as 911 even though actually 911, 993, 996 etc etc?Mr Moofo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:45 amBut the it isn't a 911 surely?Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:34 am 996s have a bit of a reputation as the 'slump' in the 911 range due to the number of issues on them. My old boss ended up buying a new 991 shape cause he could not be arsed with the upkeep on his 996.
Interestingly, you can fit an LS3 V8 to them, the V8 is lighter and smaller than the Porsche flat 6 too!
The 996s weer ugly, IMS issues - and hence cheap ... 10 years ago you could pick a low mileage one up for sub 17K
For some reason that is no longer the case
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I think Moofoo is referring to putting a V8 in 911...adding a V8 probably does mean its not a "real" 911 any more.
It just amused me a bit is all, you can replace the stock 3 litre flat 6 with a 6 litre V8 while saving weight and space.
It just amused me a bit is all, you can replace the stock 3 litre flat 6 with a 6 litre V8 while saving weight and space.
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Aaahhh, get ya.....Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:24 pm I think Moofoo is referring to putting a V8 in 911...adding a V8 probably does mean its not a "real" 911 any more.
It just amused me a bit is all, you can replace the stock 3 litre flat 6 with a 6 litre V8 while saving weight and space.
Sure that V8 conversion is good however do like the sound of a flat 6. I'd feel a little short changed with the V8 option
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My BiL had an early 996 he bought new in '99. He did almost 100k miles in it without a single fault. Another family member has one of the same year, its a daily driver but he lives in the middle of bristol so not huge mileage but again, no issues. A sample of two is ok yeah?
Oh, and prices are going north on 996's and 997's. I think its because they are a reasonable size, the 991s onwards seem to be massive?
Oh, and prices are going north on 996's and 997's. I think its because they are a reasonable size, the 991s onwards seem to be massive?
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Friends one has been fine for last 5 or 6 years, just this vario harness that's burnt up for some reason.G.P wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:22 pm My BiL had an early 996 he bought new in '99. He did almost 100k miles in it without a single fault. Another family member has one of the same year, its a daily driver but he lives in the middle of bristol so not huge mileage but again, no issues. A sample of two is ok yeah?
Oh, and prices are going north on 996's and 997's. I think its because they are a reasonable size, the 991s onwards seem to be massive?
He has offered it to me as it stands but not sure i can be bothered with the work it needs.
It a nice car - really nice dark blue with a green tint however is a Tiptronic auto and not a manual.
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If I had the choice for a daily, probably a 997 2WD Manual would be the one.v8-powered wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:21 pm
Friends one has been fine for last 5 or 6 years, just this vario harness that's burnt up for some reason.
He has offered it to me as it stands but not sure i can be bothered with the work it needs.
It a nice car - really nice dark blue with a green tint however is a Tiptronic auto and not a manual.
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Err... But.. your.. username..v8-powered wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:12 pmAaahhh, get ya.....Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:24 pm I think Moofoo is referring to putting a V8 in 911...adding a V8 probably does mean its not a "real" 911 any more.
It just amused me a bit is all, you can replace the stock 3 litre flat 6 with a 6 litre V8 while saving weight and space.
Sure that V8 conversion is good however do like the sound of a flat 6. I'd feel a little short changed with the V8 option
The 3 litre flat six in my Beemer has a nice bark though, especially when the turbos reach full chat
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Do like a V8 and did own a V8 Porsche (928 S2) but anything 911 needs a flat 6The Martian wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:13 pmErr... But.. your.. username..v8-powered wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:12 pmAaahhh, get ya.....Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:24 pm I think Moofoo is referring to putting a V8 in 911...adding a V8 probably does mean its not a "real" 911 any more.
It just amused me a bit is all, you can replace the stock 3 litre flat 6 with a 6 litre V8 while saving weight and space.
Sure that V8 conversion is good however do like the sound of a flat 6. I'd feel a little short changed with the V8 option
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I'll let you off then.. but just this oncev8-powered wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:16 pmDo like a V8 and did own a V8 Porsche (928 S2) but anything 911 needs a flat 6The Martian wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:13 pmErr... But.. your.. username..v8-powered wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:12 pm
Aaahhh, get ya.....
Sure that V8 conversion is good however do like the sound of a flat 6. I'd feel a little short changed with the V8 option
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Few mentions of the Cybertruck on this thread, this popped up on my Youtube feed today showing some of its issue's. Some obvious from the start and some not so much.
Rust being one I'd considered as Stainless isn't so stainless when you get any ferromagnetic dust on it (try a bit of steel filings on a stainless sink and see what happens) plus all the proper nasty sharp edges.
Like many pickups its not got much load space compared to the amount of road it takes up but it proper takes the piss with that one.
Rust being one I'd considered as Stainless isn't so stainless when you get any ferromagnetic dust on it (try a bit of steel filings on a stainless sink and see what happens) plus all the proper nasty sharp edges.
Like many pickups its not got much load space compared to the amount of road it takes up but it proper takes the piss with that one.
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The manual makes all the difference in a 911 IMHO, PDK and manual feel like two very different cars.
I'd have 4wd for a daily in the UK though.
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I've had auto in fast cars before and they're fine, but it's not the same thing.
Both my previous Cayman and current 997 are manual and fantastic.
4WD isn't really necessary IMHO. It's one more thing to remove a small amount of driving feel and the traction is outrageous with all the weight over the wheels anyway. The Cayman could be dicey if you tried to drive too hard on cold tyres in winter, but not so the 911.
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Yeah I had a hard job to get the back end to step out on my rwd 911 with all the electronics off, you could do it but you had to be trying. Don't get me wrong, they'll kill you if you're an oaf, but they are well poised even without the brilliant electronics package.Slenver wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:12 pmI've had auto in fast cars before and they're fine, but it's not the same thing.
Both my previous Cayman and current 997 are manual and fantastic.
4WD isn't really necessary IMHO. It's one more thing to remove a small amount of driving feel and the traction is outrageous with all the weight over the wheels anyway. The Cayman could be dicey if you tried to drive too hard on cold tyres in winter, but not so the 911.
A 4wd 911 feels a bit more secure, I don't know how to put it into words but it felt like it held the road better but was less sharp, I noticed it a lot more in slower corners, my 2wd felt sharper and less agricultural.
A fella I know races Lambos and he said they're so much easier to drive quickly than his GT3RS because of the weight distribution.
One a 911 you really could feel that great big pendulum weight hanging off the back.
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The most special version of the 911....the 911 RSR....is mid engined. Or at least, it is in some years of racing. So it seems Porsche agree with your mate. Sometimes.
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Tbh, I don't think that even Porsche would admit that the rear engine is the best design decision. I mean, it's not like they keep doing it even, the last time they launched a model with that configuration was 61 years ago! They only keep it because it's their heritage.Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:06 pm The most special version of the 911....the 911 RSR....is mid engined. Or at least, it is in some years of racing. So it seems Porsche agree with your mate. Sometimes.
It has to be said, though, that right or wrong, it does make for a unique driving experience. I thought all that stuff about the handling was just journalist talk, but they're really nothing else to drive.
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