Taipan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:47 am
Bar end muffs were removed when I arrived at work. Can't reach indicators or lights etc and they restrict the movement of your hands and just generally felt, well, dangerous really. Not for me...
They take some getting used to. Are they the ones built for the bike, or a 'generic' pair? Sometimes the switchgear layout means a generic pair won't work well.
My Scoot is in the fitment list but along with a lot of others, so pretty generic. No way can you use the indicators and attempting to means you brush the horn and sound that. They're made from neoprene so I can't see them giving any time soon either? The fit is tight that with a winter glove and I felt like my hand was taped to the bars?
Bit gutted as so many swear by them, but they just didn't work for me at all. At first I thought, I'll give them until the end of the week. Halfway through my journey it changed to until I get home. When I got to work they came off immediately!
Taipan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 9:47 am
Bar end muffs were removed when I arrived at work. Can't reach indicators or lights etc and they restrict the movement of your hands and just generally felt, well, dangerous really. Not for me...
They take some getting used to. Are they the ones built for the bike, or a 'generic' pair? Sometimes the switchgear layout means a generic pair won't work well.
My Scoot is in the fitment list but along with a lot of others, so pretty generic. No way can you use the indicators and attempting to means you brush the horn and sound that. They're made from neoprene so I can't see them giving any time soon either? The fit is tight that with a winter glove and I felt like my hand was taped to the bars?
Bit gutted as so many swear by them, but they just didn't work for me at all. At first I thought, I'll give them until the end of the week. Halfway through my journey it changed to until I get home. When I got to work they came off immediately!
I have to say that when I was looking at them for the Rockster (for winter commuting), I did wonder if the Neoprene ones might cause issues.
They ought to be fairly baggy around the controls.
They take some getting used to. Are they the ones built for the bike, or a 'generic' pair? Sometimes the switchgear layout means a generic pair won't work well.
My Scoot is in the fitment list but along with a lot of others, so pretty generic. No way can you use the indicators and attempting to means you brush the horn and sound that. They're made from neoprene so I can't see them giving any time soon either? The fit is tight that with a winter glove and I felt like my hand was taped to the bars?
Bit gutted as so many swear by them, but they just didn't work for me at all. At first I thought, I'll give them until the end of the week. Halfway through my journey it changed to until I get home. When I got to work they came off immediately!
I have to say that when I was looking at them for the Rockster (for winter commuting), I did wonder if the Neoprene ones might cause issues.
They ought to be fairly baggy around the controls.
These were tight, too tight, but they do other models which maybe bigger and better. The fit was secure though, unlike teh big oxford ones I tried on abiek once before. They were loose enough thta at speed they'd gradually apply the front brake, albeit slightly!
These Tucanos kept my hands warmer, but not totally warm though. I was surprised that my hands were still a little cold with them on there?
Muffs worked well on my SH,but I wasn't trying to stuff Winter gloves in there too! Use Summer gloves,then you'll have feel and let the muffs keep the chill off.
My Scoot is in the fitment list but along with a lot of others, so pretty generic. No way can you use the indicators and attempting to means you brush the horn and sound that. They're made from neoprene so I can't see them giving any time soon either? The fit is tight that with a winter glove and I felt like my hand was taped to the bars?
Bit gutted as so many swear by them, but they just didn't work for me at all. At first I thought, I'll give them until the end of the week. Halfway through my journey it changed to until I get home. When I got to work they came off immediately!
I have to say that when I was looking at them for the Rockster (for winter commuting), I did wonder if the Neoprene ones might cause issues.
They ought to be fairly baggy around the controls.
These were tight, too tight, but they do other models which maybe bigger and better. The fit was secure though, unlike teh big oxford ones I tried on abiek once before. They were loose enough thta at speed they'd gradually apply the front brake, albeit slightly!
These Tucanos kept my hands warmer, but not totally warm though. I was surprised that my hands were still a little cold with them on there?
The muffs won't 'generate' heat obviously - if it's a cold day the grips will still be cold! The muffs just prevent the wind-blast stealing the heat energy away.
Taipan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:28 pm
These Tucanos kept my hands warmer, but not totally warm though. I was surprised that my hands were still a little cold with them on there?
Taipan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:28 pm
These Tucanos kept my hands warmer, but not totally warm though. I was surprised that my hands were still a little cold with them on there?
No desire to try heated gloves?
I've heard these are the puppies as they heat your whole hand not just the palm like grips do. Expensive but from a couple of mates who winter commute they are great.
Taipan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:28 pm
These Tucanos kept my hands warmer, but not totally warm though. I was surprised that my hands were still a little cold with them on there?
No desire to try heated gloves?
I have, as a guy here bought some from Ali Express and they've really served him well. Each year I say I'll buy some but never get round to it. I've got too many gloves, maybe its time to bin some and bring in the heated!
Taipan wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 1:28 pm
These Tucanos kept my hands warmer, but not totally warm though. I was surprised that my hands were still a little cold with them on there?
No desire to try heated gloves?
I have, as a guy here bought some from Ali Express and they've really served him well. Each year I say I'll buy some but never get round to it. I've got too many gloves, maybe its time to bin some and bring in the heated!
Updated version of what my colleague has. We'll see how I get on with them...
Supermofo wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:15 am
I've heard these are the puppies as they heat your whole hand not just the palm like grips do. Expensive but from a couple of mates who winter commute they are great.
Yup, they heat your whole hand, especially the back of it. Way better than heated grips IMO. I plug them into a heated jacket meaning I don't have to faff around with the cables or batteries for them.
Taipan wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:12 pm
Updated version of what my colleague has. We'll see how I get on with them...
Given the mileage you do in all weathers I reckon you'll love them.
I use heated gloves and heated grips,plus a heated gilet. I don't ride in Winter,but regularly use all of those from Spring onwards.Mostly because I ride early in the morning when temps are often in single figures. There's only been a few times on the bike I haven't wanted heated gear the whole 'Summer'. The thermal lining in my jacket was out for 2 weeks this year,then swiftly put back in.
Skub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:48 pm
I use heated gloves and heated grips,plus a heated gilet. I don't ride in Winter,but regularly use all of those from Spring onwards.Mostly because I ride early in the morning when temps are often in single figures. There's only been a few times on the bike I haven't wanted heated gear the whole 'Summer'. The thermal lining in my jacket was out for 2 weeks this year,then swiftly put back in.
I'm somewhat similar, I will still take my heated gilet or jacket with me on long Summer rides, particularly if on a trip away just in case - riding whilst cold is really quite unpleasant.
Skub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:48 pm
I use heated gloves and heated grips,plus a heated gilet. I don't ride in Winter,but regularly use all of those from Spring onwards.Mostly because I ride early in the morning when temps are often in single figures. There's only been a few times on the bike I haven't wanted heated gear the whole 'Summer'. The thermal lining in my jacket was out for 2 weeks this year,then swiftly put back in.
I'm somewhat similar, I will still take my heated gilet or jacket with me on long Summer rides, particularly if on a trip away just in case - riding whilst cold is really quite unpleasant.
Skub wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:48 pm
I use heated gloves and heated grips,plus a heated gilet. I don't ride in Winter,but regularly use all of those from Spring onwards.Mostly because I ride early in the morning when temps are often in single figures. There's only been a few times on the bike I haven't wanted heated gear the whole 'Summer'. The thermal lining in my jacket was out for 2 weeks this year,then swiftly put back in.
I'm somewhat similar, I will still take my heated gilet or jacket with me on long Summer rides, particularly if on a trip away just in case - riding whilst cold is really quite unpleasant.
I have, as a guy here bought some from Ali Express and they've really served him well. Each year I say I'll buy some but never get round to it. I've got too many gloves, maybe its time to bin some and bring in the heated!
Updated version of what my colleague has. We'll see how I get on with them...
I tried them today. I used the medium setting but couldn't really feel anything? I tried to manage my expectations here on just how good a 3.7v batter can be, but even then, there was nothing at all that I could feel. Incredibly I hit every light as it was green and didn't get the chance to hit the maximum heat setting until I was quite near work. I did start to feel some warmth on the back of my hands, but hardly what I'd call heat! I'll try them on max heat on the way home for the whole journey, but my initial impressions are they are as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike!
On the plus side of things, I fitted a Puig screen at the weekend. I mounted it too far forward and too steeply angled back, so I get some reflection of the headlight bouncing back at me and I'm directing some airflow literally right at my face. But, even then, its a massive improvement on no screen and it did shield me well in the pissing rain today. It's infinitely adjustable, so I'll move it up and back and reduce the angle to a more upright one and see how that works out, but, tbh, I was used to it by the time I got to work. Very impressed.
My mate picked up some RST heated gloves in the Jan sale. I only tried them in the garage but started getting heat within seconds, how they are on the bike though I don't now but they were £150 in the sale so that might account for the difference.
I only got into those as a former colleague had some and swore by them. Maybe mine are faulty? I'll give them another shot and if no good, send them back or ebay/bin them! Not sure I want to spend any more on something I'll only use a few days a year, if at all?
Taipan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:19 pm
I only got into those as a former colleague had some and swore by them. Maybe mine are faulty? I'll give them another shot and if no good, send them back or ebay/bin them! Not sure I want to spend any more on something I'll only use a few days a year, if at all?
If they were hot enough for you to feel the heat when you're outside on a cold day (with >30mph windchill as well), they'd be hot enough to burn your skin if you had them on inside or on a warm day. Some numpties WILL leave them on on a hot day and burn themselves, so the heat level will be sufficient to keep you comfortable when it's cold, but not damage you when it's not.
The fact that your hands were not cold (if that's the case, you didn't say) is the important thing to think about. My 'Warm-n-safe' top never gets me 'warm' when it's actually cold out, but it stops me getting chilly.
IIRC someone on the old forum actually got first or second degree burns on his body from an early production model gillet from one of the companies (I think it might have been Keis, not sure). It was the guy who wrote for Backstreet Heroes, so Keis (if it was them) got an absolute roasting in print.
Rockburner wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:38 pm
IIRC someone on the old forum actually got first or second degree burns on his body from an early production model gillet from one of the companies (I think it might have been Keis, not sure). It was the guy who wrote for Backstreet Heroes, so Keis (if it was them) got an absolute roasting in print.
Nik Samson. Unwanted tattoos. I think that's why they recommend always using a controller now.
There are a couple of ways I skin the cold hands cat. Heated grips and muffs on the scoot,or heated grips and heated gloves on a proper bike.
I hate wearing bulky gloves and found on the scooter I could get away with the heated grips/muffs combination and Summer gloves. My Keis heated gloves are great for those cold crisp runs. That can be up until June in this bloody country! I've had them get uncomfortably hot on the high setting.
Rockburner wrote: ↑Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:38 pm
IIRC someone on the old forum actually got first or second degree burns on his body from an early production model gillet from one of the companies (I think it might have been Keis, not sure). It was the guy who wrote for Backstreet Heroes, so Keis (if it was them) got an absolute roasting in print.
Nik Samson. Unwanted tattoos. I think that's why they recommend always using a controller now.
There are a couple of ways I skin the cold hands cat. Heated grips and muffs on the scoot,or heated grips and heated gloves on a proper bike.
I hate wearing bulky gloves and found on the scooter I could get away with the heated grips/muffs combination and Summer gloves. My Keis heated gloves are great for those cold crisp runs. That can be up until June in this bloody country! I've had them get uncomfortably hot on the high setting.
That's him. (I knew 'sam' was in the name somewhere).
On the BM i have heated grips and muffs for winter. Plenty comfy enough, but keeping the body core warm with a heated gilet makes the biggest difference.
