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[Mr. Dazzle]

I mean the fact the headers poke out left and right, every other Guzzi (and indeed Beemer) has them pointing forwards.

I know why they've done it (means you can feed the engine from a big air box under the tank) it just looks weird.

[Count Steer]

I still can't cope with the 90' turned cylinder heads.

I didn't notice when they first launched this engine, but now I can't unsee it.

I think they’re 45’, 90’ would be straight out boxer like.

If you 'flattened' the Guzzi engine out to make a boxer then the exhaust is rotated 90° clockwise looking at the heads end on innit? From pointing forwards to down.

[mangocrazy]

I think the trick they've done with the heads (and inlet/exhaust) is a smart move and doesn't look out of place. The edge of the cylinder head is still the widest point of the engine and the exhaust won't touch any body parts, so I'm all in favour. Die-hard Guzzi purists may object, but I don't fall into that camp. At a stroke they've made the engine more modern looking and substantially increased its performance.

What's not to like?

[Bigjawa]

About as exciting and fast as a Mondeo.

Ever drive one of the later 5 pot turbos?

We got one up to near 400 bhp for a punter.

Anyway, dunno what to make of that Guzzi, it's like they've made a Heinz 57 out of all the other manufacturers. It's like a tin of London Grill.

[wull]

I still can't cope with the 90' turned cylinder heads.

I didn't notice when they first launched this engine, but now I can't unsee it.

I think they’re 45’, 90’ would be straight out boxer like.

If you 'flattened' the Guzzi engine out to make a boxer then the exhaust is rotated 90° clockwise looking at the heads end on innit? From pointing forwards to down.

I edited my comment when I realised it was a 90’ L like twin. But the heads as we look at them are 45’ from vertical

[Mr. Dazzle]

That's still not my point

On every other Guzzi the inlet is at the rear of the cylinder and the exhaust at the front. In this bike the inlet is in the centre and the exhaust is on the left/right depending on which cylinder you look at. Everything is spun 90'.

They've done it for good reasons, it just seems "off" to me

[JackyJoll]

Motorcyclists make an awful lot of fuss about what the exhaust system looks like.

[mangocrazy]

Motorcyclists make an awful lot of fuss about what the exhaust system looks like.

Probably because it's out in the open (especially on a Guzzi) and is a major part of the styling? It's not like a car, where the only bit you see is the tailpipe (on an ICE vehicle, obvs).

[Horse]

I still can't cope with the 90' turned cylinder heads.

I hadn't noticed until ^ that!

It's an interesting compromise - the exhaust has to be extended forwards instead if the intake path being extended out.

However, it does allow more freedom on size and location of the radiator.


Edit: if you can't cope with 90°, a CX500 would bring you out in hives

22° from inline with the crank

[Count Steer]

There's also something vaguely mechanically satisfying about an arrangement where the crank and shaft rotate in the same plane so to speak. (Shame the power has to do a 90° turn at the back wheel but you can't have everything. ).

[Dickyboy]

Pah, Guzzi couldn't even be bothered to go the full hog & reverse the cylinders fully



Like the eagles facing backwards too

[wull]

That's still not my point

On every other Guzzi the inlet is at the rear of the cylinder and the exhaust at the front. In this bike the inlet is in the centre and the exhaust is on the left/right depending on which cylinder you look at. Everything is spun 90'.

They've done it for good reasons, it just seems "off" to me

That’s my fault for not even reading your comment correctly, just realised you’re talking about the cylinder head as opposed to the cylinders themselves. I don’t think it makes any odds so maybe more for access or space itself depending on what’s going on.

[Demannu]

I mean the fact the headers poke out left and right, every other Guzzi (and indeed Beemer) has them pointing forwards.

I know why they've done it (means you can feed the engine from a big air box under the tank) it just looks weird.

Ahem!!
Gs1250

[Scootabout]

If it has decent luggage available to fit it would be a nice touring option.

Ah, there's the rub. It doesn't look as if it would be easy to fit luggage to it.

[Count Steer]

If it has decent luggage available to fit it would be a nice touring option.

Ah, there's the rub. It doesn't look as if it would be easy to fit luggage to it.

I thought not too, which would rather limits its usefulness. However, a quick rootle and there are some pics of panniers v neatly attached that look like they're styled/designed for it.

[Mr. Dazzle]

I mean the fact the headers poke out left and right, every other Guzzi (and indeed Beemer) has them pointing forwards.

I know why they've done it (means you can feed the engine from a big air box under the tank) it just looks weird.

Ahem!!
Gs1250

Ha!

So it does. There's so much err...'extra'....going on with that bike I didn't notice

[Scootabout]

If Santa brought one I wouldn't stuff it back in his sack.