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Jody wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:51 pm
Skub wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:46 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:18 pm Conversion to chain drive by bolting the final drive directly to the gearbox and adding a sprocket.
I wonder why.

Weight saving?

Better handling?

Lighter?

Maybe just because he could.
Probably wanted to do wheelies !
And improve the steering too :thumbup:
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Horse wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:50 pm
Jody wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:51 pm
Skub wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:46 pm

I wonder why.

Weight saving?

Better handling?

Lighter?

Maybe just because he could.
Probably wanted to do wheelies !
And improve the steering too :thumbup:
Not sure about that tbh... Yes there's less rotating mass, but that would only work to reduce the "shaft effect" if it's assumed that ALL the rotating masses (crankshaft, gearbox shafts, final drive shaft) have not been designed to balance each others rotational effects.
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Rockburner wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:37 pm
Horse wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:50 pm
And improve the steering too :thumbup:
Not sure about that tbh... Yes there's less rotating mass, but that would only work to reduce the "shaft effect" if it's assumed that ALL the rotating masses (crankshaft, gearbox shafts, final drive shaft) have not been designed to balance each others rotational effects.
But it's been known for decades - at least since Visordown days - that (as well as wheelies) shaft drive bikes simply can't be counter-steered.

Thought you'd remember that ;)
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Horse wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:51 pm
Rockburner wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:37 pm
Horse wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:50 pm
And improve the steering too :thumbup:
Not sure about that tbh... Yes there's less rotating mass, but that would only work to reduce the "shaft effect" if it's assumed that ALL the rotating masses (crankshaft, gearbox shafts, final drive shaft) have not been designed to balance each others rotational effects.
But it's been known for decades - at least since Visordown days - that (as well as wheelies) shaft drive bikes simply can't be counter-steered.

Thought you'd remember that ;)
They have to be contra-steered, everyone knows that!
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Don’t hassle the tassel.

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Interesting exhaust layout too.

Engineering reason? Or just 'cos it looked 'cool'?
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Maybe he just missed getting the spanners out to adjust the chain tension.

Looks like the swing arm pivot lines up pretty close to the sprocket too...
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Cousin Jack wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:38 am Interesting exhaust layout too.

Engineering reason? Or just 'cos it looked 'cool'?
Looks like the forks NEED to be kicked out, to clear the headers!
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So near and yet…. sofa.

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JackyJoll wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:50 am So near and yet…. sofa.

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JackyJoll wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 10:50 am So near and yet…. sofa.

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Shame really - so much work and such a terrible result.
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Another new one to me spotted while out and about today

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I have heard of Fantic, i think they mainly did motocross or trials stuff back when granny was a little boy. I would not be surprised if they are now Chinese owned and made. If it's good enough for AJS etc ...
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There's a semi-adventure version of the Caballero, I'll see if I can find a pic.

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Apart from the paint the only real difference I can spot is a rack, but it's a whole different model :)
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The one I saw was a 125, I can't make out the sticker on the rad scoop on your pic, is it maybe a 200! ?

I didn't mind the look of the one I saw but I felt 125 wouldn't be enough and as a 125 it had zero need of twin exhausts !
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Can't see the point of twin silencers.
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Jody wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:33 pm The one I saw was a 125, I can't make out the sticker on the rad scoop on your pic, is it maybe a 200! ?

I didn't mind the look of the one I saw but I felt 125 wouldn't be enough and as a 125 it had zero need of twin exhausts !
It's the 500 I think.
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Jody wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 2:24 pm Another new one to me spotted while out and about today

I have heard of Fantic, i think they mainly did motocross or trials stuff back when granny was a little boy. I would not be surprised if they are now Chinese owned and made. If it's good enough for AJS etc ...
Fantic made Italian mopeds back in the 70's https://classic-motorbikes.net/fantic-c ... road-test/

.In recent years they' were Italian designed but Chinese manufactured.Not sure if it's Fantic but one of the Italian firms were building their current bikes back in Italy once again.Those Caballero's look half decent.
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How can we not remind ourselves of the famous Fantic Chopper? :D

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