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Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 8:53 pm
by Demannu
My akra downpipes would make Weeksy cry. I've tried autosol, no joy. Not going to use harpic!
Anyone got some special goop (no, not Gwinny's foofoo juice) that will bring back that ti gleam.
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 8:56 pm
by KungFooBob
Why not the Harpic, the tinternets are awash with recommendations for it?
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 9:18 pm
by Demannu
Harpic is a 9% solution of hydrochloric acid.
Anything more than 5% will start to eat your pipes, that's why it gives such spectacular results, it's dissolving the pipes.
Not likely to apply it every week, but have no desire to disolve parts of my bike.
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 9:20 pm
by KungFooBob
Mix it 50/50 with council pop?
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 10:44 pm
by mangocrazy
Buy a 5 litre container of brick cleaner (28% hydrochloric acid) and dilute it 1:5 (or 1:6 if you're nervous). 30 litres of sub-5% hydrochloric acid. You can clean a lot of metal with that...
Or do as Screwd suggests and buy a big bag of citric acid off ebay. Lots of uses.
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 8:16 am
by Mr. Dazzle
Plus one on the "just water it down" approach. Might be obvious thing to say, but get some eye protection first!
I have 5kg tubs of both citric acid and bicarb (should probably keep em apart from each other)...they're great for all kinds of domestic jobs and way cheaper. Fancy cleaners pretty much just contain those sorts of things anyway, so just proceed straight to jail and do not collect £200 instead.
Pretty unusual to find something that one of those two can't deal with, perhaps in combination with my steam cleaner

Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 8:38 am
by Count Steer
Some folk out there recommend welder's pickling paste. It's a mix of hydrochloric and nitric acid!
I found that there tends to be sort of glaze forms on the hotter end so a mild abrasive before applying any weak acid might help to keep the result looking more even (or mix the mild abrasive in with the weak acid to make a rubbing paste?). I know I ended up, after much effort, with a result that was still 'Meh. It'll do'.
Apparently there's some silicone spray you can apply after to keep things looking nicer longer. Can't see it working myself, or it'll make the job harder next time.
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 9:03 am
by Mr. Dazzle
Mild abrasive is where the bicarb comes in handy.
Works terribly with citric acid though!
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 9:51 am
by Trinity765
Hold my beer.
I've found that wet and dry 600 grit sandpaper (used wet) is the best thing to start them off and then Autosol metal polish.
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 9:59 am
by Horse
Count Steer wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 8:38 am
Apparently there's some silicone spray you can apply after to keep things looking nicer longer. Can't see it working myself, or it'll make the job harder next time.
Hmmm sounds like BMW's supposedly corrosion resistant wheel paint. That peeled in patches and looked awful.
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 10:27 am
by Mr. Dazzle
Yeah but the paint itself didn't corrode, it's fine. Just not on the wheel any more.
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 10:38 am
by Count Steer
Horse wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 9:59 am
Count Steer wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 8:38 am
Apparently there's some silicone spray you can apply after to keep things looking nicer longer. Can't see it working myself, or it'll make the job harder next time.
Hmmm sounds like BMW's supposedly corrosion resistant wheel paint. That peeled in patches and looked awful.
All I could find was 'design engineering silicone coating' which is supposed to be for high temp applications...but appears to be black or white. Looks like it's used before they put that 'orrible wrap fabric on exhausts (which is another way to hide unsightly headers).
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 10:39 am
by Count Steer
Trinity765 wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 9:51 am
Hold my beer.
I've found that wet and dry 600 grit sandpaper (used wet) is the best thing to start them off and then Autosol metal polish.
If you use that welders pickling paste you may not have enough fingers left to hold the beer.

Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 2:09 pm
by Demannu
We're going with pink stuff.
Apparently its 60% quartz which is why its aces on metal!
There may be pictures!
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 8:51 pm
by BBB
I've got this
http://www.autosol.com/mobile/Product.aspx?id=37520
Works very well on stainless doesn't mention or not mention titanium.
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 9:17 pm
by KungFooBob
Apart from the bit where it does mention titanium

Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 9:42 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Bluing is primarily caused by getting hot though, so it's just gonna happen again.

Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:11 pm
by Pgm
Any update on this ?
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:57 pm
by Demannu
Bit the bullet and used a 6% h2so4 mix. Rubbed it on, gave it 5 mins then rinsed. Super impressed with the results.
Re: Cleaning ti headers
Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:21 pm
by ZRX61
Wiping the pipes with vinegar removes bluing, no need for special goops