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Master cylinder

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:41 pm
by Scoots
Hi, does anyone know of a compatible front master cylinder for a ccm404...my Brymbo one has siezed...expensive for a new one...thanks in advance

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:45 pm
by Yorick
Any decent mechanic will be able to rebuild yours.

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:46 pm
by wull
Buy a rebuild kit and do it yourself.

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:54 pm
by Count Steer
This lot will do it for £49.50 apparently.

https://racesparesuk.com/product/brembo ... er-repair/

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:08 pm
by Scoots
Count Steer wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:54 pm This lot will do it for £49.50 apparently.

https://racesparesuk.com/product/brembo ... er-repair/
I've spoken to these today...apparently can't get the seals for original Brembo but can do the race spec ones... :?

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:09 pm
by Scoots
wull wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:46 pm Buy a rebuild kit and do it yourself.
Not sure about that lol

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:09 pm
by Scoots
Yorick wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:45 pm Any decent mechanic will be able to rebuild yours.
It's finding one... :think:

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:14 pm
by Yorick
Scoots wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:09 pm
Yorick wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:45 pm Any decent mechanic will be able to rebuild yours.
It's finding one... :think:
Somebody on here will know someone :)

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:30 pm
by Scoots
Yorick wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:14 pm
Scoots wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:09 pm
Yorick wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:45 pm Any decent mechanic will be able to rebuild yours.
It's finding one... :think:
Somebody on here will know someone :)
Here's hoping....thanks

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:08 am
by Le_Fromage_Grande
What caliper has it got?

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:52 am
by Scoots
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:08 am What caliper has it got?
Its a single disc brembo system...I'll have to check serial numbers later for more precise details

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:01 am
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Scoots wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:52 am
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:08 am What caliper has it got?
Its a single disc brembo system...I'll have to check serial numbers later for more precise details
How many pistons, basically is the trail or supermoto?

If it's the trail you want an 11mm master cylinder, I might have a Brembo one from a Husky in the garage, if it's the supermoto you want a 1/2 inch or 13mm, DRZ400 master cylinders are 1/2 inch, but so are loads of other bikes, and you can get new pattern master cylinders off eBAy for not much, just don't buy the stupidly cheap ones.

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:07 am
by KungFooBob
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:01 am just don't buy the stupidly cheap ones.
Because they're usually cheap Chinese copies made of monkey metal.

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:18 am
by Count Steer
Scoots wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:08 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 7:54 pm This lot will do it for £49.50 apparently.

https://racesparesuk.com/product/brembo ... er-repair/
I've spoken to these today...apparently can't get the seals for original Brembo but can do the race spec ones... :?
I assume from that, that all the refurbish kits on-line aren't original Brembo then. :( (Otherwise you could send them the MC with the kit). Don't think I'd want to use iffy bits in the front brake system. What's the issue with race spec?

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:51 am
by KungFooBob
Rebuild kits are available and simple to fit, however you say it's seized.

To me that means there's corrosion in the bore and it will need honing out rather than just seals, so might not be a DIY job to do properly.

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:18 am
by iansoady
KungFooBob wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:07 am
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:01 am just don't buy the stupidly cheap ones.
Because they're usually cheap Chinese copies made of monkey metal.
Well I bought this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313949787916 which is of course Chinese but actually seems to be quite well made and decent metal. It certainly works very well. The truth is that much stuff you buy however branded will be made in the Far East anyway. I'm old enough to remember when "made in Japan" was the sign of cheap rubbish.........

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:01 pm
by Scoots
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:01 am
Scoots wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:52 am
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 6:08 am What caliper has it got?
Its a single disc brembo system...I'll have to check serial numbers later for more precise details
How many pistons, basically is the trail or supermoto?

If it's the trail you want an 11mm master cylinder, I might have a Brembo one from a Husky in the garage, if it's the supermoto you want a 1/2 inch or 13mm, DRZ400 master cylinders are 1/2 inch, but so are loads of other bikes, and you can get new pattern master cylinders off eBAy for not much, just don't buy the stupidly cheap ones.
It's the trail...the 404 dual sport model not the supermoto...cheers

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:08 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Have a look on the master cylinder and somewhere (probably underneath) it will say what size it is, I think it will be an 11 or 12, but could be a 1/2 or 13, once you've found the size, just buy another master cylinder the same size.

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:12 pm
by Scoots
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:08 pm Have a look on the master cylinder and somewhere (probably underneath) it will say what size it is, I think it will be an 11 or 12, but could be a 1/2 or 13, once you've found the size, just buy another master cylinder the same size.
OK I will look now cheers

Re: Master cylinder

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:18 pm
by Scoots
It's stamped 11 underneath..I'll have a look for a replacement now..thanks