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Rambling just now because I haven't heard a final decision from the insurance yet but...

I bought my GS for £11k 2 months ago and subsequently wrote it off.

Insurance estimate has it needing a new engine, fuel tank and rear subframe at £12.7k.

Engine...one bolt from the crash bars pulled out the crankcase and a helicoil or drill and retap would fix it or even run without them.

Fuel tank..secondhand tank.

Subframe...honestly I can't see anything wrong with it but I could go secondhand if needed.

To look at its literally undamaged apart from bent crash bars and £1k would see it back on the road spotless.

Anyone have an idea what price makes sense if I can buy it back? (bear in mind its probably going to be Cat C which will affect resale) If I'm only going to make a few quid it's not worth my while.

I've bought a car back before but never a bike so I literally have no idea.

Anybody bought a bike back?

Yes I could buy it back, fix it and ride it but any excuse for a NEW BIKE.

You're bound to make a profit if you buy it, fix it, then sell straight away.

Then buy the new bike

An 11k bike fixed and cat C is still 8-9k.

So then question is, what will they sell it to you for?

Measure your subframe from a datum point then stick a 4x2 in and bend it back to where it needs to be! I'd buy it back in a heartbeat, depending on price obvs, but the repair is easy and nicely explained to a punter. Keep it and enjoy or sell it for profit and buy something better.

weeksy wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:52 pm An 11k bike fixed and cat C is still 8-9k.

So then question is, what will they sell it to you for?

This is sort of fundamental to the whole discussion ....

Mr Moofo wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 12:25 pm

weeksy wrote: Fri Sep 24, 2021 1:52 pm An 11k bike fixed and cat C is still 8-9k.

So then question is, what will they sell it to you for?

This is sort of fundamental to the whole discussion ....

If they do and for a reasonable amount,then yes,I'd buy it back. You can be sure someone will if you don't.

I've done this in the past and either made a few quid,or had a cheap bike to run.

There is no cat c anymore.
S or N for returning to the road.
IF you can swing it for a cat N, then resale will be -5/10% compared to pre damage.
Cat S just sends out too many 'what if' and will hammer resale value.
If you get a good buy back price and are happy to ride around on it, that would be my option!

Demannu wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:03 pm
If you get a good buy back price and are happy to ride around on it, that would be my option!

There lies the dilemma.

Mrs S had come into a few quid recently so the idea was just to get the insurance money, pay the extra and get a new 1250 next year.

Then I had the idea of buying it back, fixing it and selling it thereby contributing a bit more to the 1250.

Yes could keep it and make no mistake I loved it and if I hadn’t had the mishap it would very likely have been my last bike.

But now the idea of a new bike has wormed its way into my head…well you know how it goes.

One for everyday and one for high days and holiday's ?
(I'm not serious!)

We’ll much to my surprise it’s a category B so that’s any idea of fixing it gone.

Next fun will be getting them to increase the frankly ridiculous offer they made. I paid £11.850 2 months ago and they’re offering £9.600.

That's the game for them. You don't expect a full offer off the bat.

You buying the same thing to replace it?

It's been a few years for me, but as Weeksy says, it's a game.

You need to replace it like for like. So find a couple of adverts for bikes with similar mileage and age and send them to them.

Last time I did it I had to cut them out of bike trader and paste the adverts into a letter

weeksy wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:03 pm That's the game for them. You don't expect a full offer off the bat.

You buying the same thing to replace it?

Think I’ll go for a 1250 next.

I’m not sure if to go used or new. It’s probably going to be my last bike ( tho I said that about the 1200 and see how that turned out )

Scotsrich wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:42 pm We’ll much to my surprise it’s a category B so that’s any idea of fixing it gone.

Next fun will be getting them to increase the frankly ridiculous offer they made. I paid £11.850 2 months ago and they’re offering £9.600.

The salvage cost will be lower coz of Cat B.
Then sell as parts.

Yorick wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:41 pm

Scotsrich wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:42 pm We’ll much to my surprise it’s a category B so that’s any idea of fixing it gone.

Next fun will be getting them to increase the frankly ridiculous offer they made. I paid £11.850 2 months ago and they’re offering £9.600.

The salvage cost will be lower coz of Cat B.
Then sell as parts.

The time, effort, storage, parts and left over bits would really really make that a non-starter for me.

Potter wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:45 am

KungFooBob wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:06 pm It's been a few years for me, but as Weeksy says, it's a game.

You need to replace it like for like. So find a couple of adverts for bikes with similar mileage and age and send them to them.

Last time I did it I had to cut them out of bike trader and paste the adverts into a letter

That's exactly what I did, twice, both times they increased it but the first time by not enough, so the second time I sent adverts of similar bikes and then said I'd be happy to go to arbitration for a fair price.

Ive had to this a couple of times with car insurance.

On one occasion I suggested I’d just get a claims management firm to open negotiations on my behalf on the basis there was no similar car on Autotrader for anything near what they had offered. I eventually got close to the right amount.

I had a triumph herald in about 1990...solid but a bit "distressed".
A whizzy bus backed round a corner ( i had just turned round) and straight into the front of me. Driver v. apologetic, details swapped. The insurance co. sent an assessor was quite rude and offered me £100....i told him not very politely to leave.
Wrote to the insurance company, streesing that it was a classic and they had damaged an orreplaceable major panel, and i would not take less than £300.
They sent me £450.
Meanwhile, i had sat on the bonnet a couple of times so it would shut, sold the car a few months later for more than i had paid.
Not lide changing sums involved, but it made oi larf.

weeksy wrote: Thu Sep 30, 2021 7:53 am

Yorick wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:41 pm

Scotsrich wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:42 pm We’ll much to my surprise it’s a category B so that’s any idea of fixing it gone.

Next fun will be getting them to increase the frankly ridiculous offer they made. I paid £11.850 2 months ago and they’re offering £9.600.

The salvage cost will be lower coz of Cat B.
Then sell as parts.

The time, effort, storage, parts and left over bits would really really make that a non-starter for me.

Same for most of us. The only way I'd consider buying it is to sell it on as it is, which I suspect would still be very attractive to a large group of people. But if anyone doesn't like the hassle of selling bikes, then deffo stay away from selling salvage.

weeksy wrote: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:03 pm That's the game for them. You don't expect a full offer off the bat.

You buying the same thing to replace it?

What a bunch of chancers and time wasters they are.

They offer.
You sigh and provide evidence of similar vehicles/prices and even from supposed legit sites like parkers.
They have a moan about the market being crap and unrealistic prices.
And round and round ....

Mrs. D's Civic ended up "going" for way less than it was worth. With my Volvo I was all set to have the arguments when they offered me £500 more than I thought it was worth

Presumably they use the same random number generator as powers the quote machine.