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2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:31 am
by dylan22
2022 Yamaha R7
Engine: 689cc Twin-Cylinder
Power: 73.4 PS
Torque: 67 Nm
weight: 188 kg
Image Source: https://www.mototechindia.com/yamaha-yzf-r7/
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Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:36 am
by wull
Yeah I have to agree, a lot of bike these days are very “Samey” to each other, there are a few exceptions but sadly they tend to be that little bit more expensive.

I do love the beemer though.

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 11:11 am
by Le_Fromage_Grande
I like it, don't think I'd fit the riding position, but I'll have a look at one when they arrive in the showroom, I was hoping it would be a big R3, but I think it's a bit more focused than an R3.

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:06 pm
by The Spin Doctor
So... what are the odds on an R9?

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:19 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
The Spin Doctor wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:06 pm So... what are the odds on an R9?
Pretty high if the R7 sells well

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:48 pm
by weeksy
The Spin Doctor wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:06 pm So... what are the odds on an R9?
100% so I've been informed

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:52 pm
by KungFooBob
I'm not so sure.

They don't sell a road going R6 in the UK any longer, because no one buys supersports bikes anymore.

So what hole does an R9 fill that isn't already filled by the MT/XSR/Tracer?

They bill the R7 as a stepping stone to the R1, do they need two stepping stones?

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:54 pm
by weeksy

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:55 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
How many R1s are Yamaha selling and how much do they cost to make, I think the R1 will go the way of the R6 to be replaced by a £10K R9 that has lower spec suspension and brakes.

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:14 pm
by KungFooBob
A Tracer 900 costs over 10k new. The 700 is 9k.

I reckon if the R9 happens its going to be a 11-12k bike.

The R1 is currently £17k

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:25 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Maybe, Yamaha were saying £8K for the R7, that's what I based my guess on price on

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:26 pm
by KungFooBob
I can't imagine them telling the R7 for less than a 700 Tracer, but stranger things happen at sea.

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:30 pm
by Yorick
750s had the same power in the 70s. Stupid to give it same name as a previous top sports bike.

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:53 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
KungFooBob wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:26 pm I can't imagine them telling the R7 for less than a 700 Tracer, but stranger things happen at sea.
I had a look and it's still being advertised at £8K, it is odd that it's less than the Tracer, but it's got to compete with the Ninja 650, but it hasn't been hit with the ugly stick like the Kawasaki

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:56 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Yorick wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 1:30 pm 750s had the same power in the 70s. Stupid to give it same name as a previous top sports bike.
1970s 750s were slower than standard 350LCs.

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:14 pm
by crust
A big meh from me. Potter nailed, it another 'mondeo' clone sportyish bike for the born again middle aged.

You can hear it now - "Nori used to ride an R7"

Stupidly loud, never been near motogp exhaust and an appointment with the hedge on the outside of a bend near you.

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:34 pm
by The Spin Doctor
I never read More Crap than News so I must be prescient ;)
KungFooBob wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:52 pm I'm not so sure.

They don't sell a road going R6 in the UK any longer, because no one buys supersports bikes anymore.

So what hole does an R9 fill that isn't already filled by the MT/XSR/Tracer?

They bill the R7 as a stepping stone to the R1, do they need two stepping stones?
It fills a 'platform' role... take a basic bike / chassis and change up the bolt-on bits to make a new bike.

The R1 only needs to fill a specialist high performance role as the basis for a homologated race bike, which means they can reduce production numbers and push the price sky high and STILL sell it, whilst adopting the cheaper triple brings the price of a 'good enough' sportsbike for the road back to something vaguely sensible AND offers a 100hp bike for those who want that much power. There are plenty of people already moaning that the R7 isn't an R6... well, the R9 would replace that bike.

And bear in mind that electric motorcycles ARE coming, so there's not a lot of point spending a shed load of cash on what is now likely to be an evolutionary dead-end.

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:52 pm
by Count Steer
The Spin Doctor wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:34 pm
And bear in mind that electric motorcycles ARE coming, so there's not a lot of point spending a shed load of cash on what is now likely to be an evolutionary dead-end.
Probably time to buy a few mint bikes of various types and mothball them. As long as they're actually road legal I can't see the value dropping.

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:55 pm
by weeksy
The Spin Doctor wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:34 pm I never read More Crap than News so I must be prescient ;)
KungFooBob wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:52 pm I'm not so sure.

They don't sell a road going R6 in the UK any longer, because no one buys supersports bikes anymore.

So what hole does an R9 fill that isn't already filled by the MT/XSR/Tracer?

They bill the R7 as a stepping stone to the R1, do they need two stepping stones?
It fills a 'platform' role... take a basic bike / chassis and change up the bolt-on bits to make a new bike.

The R1 only needs to fill a specialist high performance role as the basis for a homologated race bike, which means they can reduce production numbers and push the price sky high and STILL sell it, whilst adopting the cheaper triple brings the price of a 'good enough' sportsbike for the road back to something vaguely sensible AND offers a 100hp bike for those who want that much power. There are plenty of people already moaning that the R7 isn't an R6... well, the R9 would replace that bike.

And bear in mind that electric motorcycles ARE coming, so there's not a lot of point spending a shed load of cash on what is now likely to be an evolutionary dead-end.
Why on earth would I be buying a bike based upon its potential resale value? That's not what bikes are for, they're for smiles, pleasure and enjoyment. The fact they have any resale value at all is a bonus.

Using your logic we may as well just eat crap food as you just shit it out anyway

Re: 2022 Yamaha R7

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:12 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
You could get a Kawasaki 650 to 700cc with no problems