2022 Yamaha R7

[dylan22]

2022 Yamaha R7
Engine: 689cc Twin-Cylinder
Power: 73.4 PS
Torque: 67 Nm
weight: 188 kg
Image Source: https://www.mototechindia.com/yamaha-yzf-r7/

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[wull]

Yeah I have to agree, a lot of bike these days are very “Samey” to each other, there are a few exceptions but sadly they tend to be that little bit more expensive.

I do love the beemer though.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I like it, don't think I'd fit the riding position, but I'll have a look at one when they arrive in the showroom, I was hoping it would be a big R3, but I think it's a bit more focused than an R3.

[The Spin Doctor]

So... what are the odds on an R9?

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

So... what are the odds on an R9?

Pretty high if the R7 sells well

[weeksy]

So... what are the odds on an R9?

100% so I've been informed

[KungFooBob]

I'm not so sure.

They don't sell a road going R6 in the UK any longer, because no one buys supersports bikes anymore.

So what hole does an R9 fill that isn't already filled by the MT/XSR/Tracer?

They bill the R7 as a stepping stone to the R1, do they need two stepping stones?

[weeksy]

Which bit are you unsure about?

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/new ... tsbike-r9/

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

How many R1s are Yamaha selling and how much do they cost to make, I think the R1 will go the way of the R6 to be replaced by a £10K R9 that has lower spec suspension and brakes.

[KungFooBob]

A Tracer 900 costs over 10k new. The 700 is 9k.

I reckon if the R9 happens its going to be a 11-12k bike.

The R1 is currently £17k

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

Maybe, Yamaha were saying £8K for the R7, that's what I based my guess on price on

[KungFooBob]

I can't imagine them telling the R7 for less than a 700 Tracer, but stranger things happen at sea.

[Yorick]

750s had the same power in the 70s. Stupid to give it same name as a previous top sports bike.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I can't imagine them telling the R7 for less than a 700 Tracer, but stranger things happen at sea.

I had a look and it's still being advertised at £8K, it is odd that it's less than the Tracer, but it's got to compete with the Ninja 650, but it hasn't been hit with the ugly stick like the Kawasaki

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

750s had the same power in the 70s. Stupid to give it same name as a previous top sports bike.

1970s 750s were slower than standard 350LCs.

[crust]

A big meh from me. Potter nailed, it another 'mondeo' clone sportyish bike for the born again middle aged.

You can hear it now - "Nori used to ride an R7"

Stupidly loud, never been near motogp exhaust and an appointment with the hedge on the outside of a bend near you.

[The Spin Doctor]

I never read More Crap than News so I must be prescient

I'm not so sure.

They don't sell a road going R6 in the UK any longer, because no one buys supersports bikes anymore.

So what hole does an R9 fill that isn't already filled by the MT/XSR/Tracer?

They bill the R7 as a stepping stone to the R1, do they need two stepping stones?

It fills a 'platform' role... take a basic bike / chassis and change up the bolt-on bits to make a new bike.

The R1 only needs to fill a specialist high performance role as the basis for a homologated race bike, which means they can reduce production numbers and push the price sky high and STILL sell it, whilst adopting the cheaper triple brings the price of a 'good enough' sportsbike for the road back to something vaguely sensible AND offers a 100hp bike for those who want that much power. There are plenty of people already moaning that the R7 isn't an R6... well, the R9 would replace that bike.

And bear in mind that electric motorcycles ARE coming, so there's not a lot of point spending a shed load of cash on what is now likely to be an evolutionary dead-end.

[Count Steer]

And bear in mind that electric motorcycles ARE coming, so there's not a lot of point spending a shed load of cash on what is now likely to be an evolutionary dead-end.

Probably time to buy a few mint bikes of various types and mothball them. As long as they're actually road legal I can't see the value dropping.

[weeksy]

I never read More Crap than News so I must be prescient

I'm not so sure.

They don't sell a road going R6 in the UK any longer, because no one buys supersports bikes anymore.

So what hole does an R9 fill that isn't already filled by the MT/XSR/Tracer?

They bill the R7 as a stepping stone to the R1, do they need two stepping stones?

It fills a 'platform' role... take a basic bike / chassis and change up the bolt-on bits to make a new bike.

The R1 only needs to fill a specialist high performance role as the basis for a homologated race bike, which means they can reduce production numbers and push the price sky high and STILL sell it, whilst adopting the cheaper triple brings the price of a 'good enough' sportsbike for the road back to something vaguely sensible AND offers a 100hp bike for those who want that much power. There are plenty of people already moaning that the R7 isn't an R6... well, the R9 would replace that bike.

And bear in mind that electric motorcycles ARE coming, so there's not a lot of point spending a shed load of cash on what is now likely to be an evolutionary dead-end.

Why on earth would I be buying a bike based upon its potential resale value? That's not what bikes are for, they're for smiles, pleasure and enjoyment. The fact they have any resale value at all is a bonus.

Using your logic we may as well just eat crap food as you just shit it out anyway

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

You could get a Kawasaki 650 to 700cc with no problems