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THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:06 am
by weeksy
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:07 am
by MingtheMerciless
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:32 am
by KungFooBob
I like that, it's even got a number plate hanger!
Conversion to hydraulic clutch seems a bit overkill, just to give the bars a more symmetrical look.
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:36 am
by Druid
I like it too
I find myself strangely drawn to this style of bike, although I have no interest in off road riding. Looks like it would be good fun around the local B roads. I'd be thinking about road tyres rather than knobblies, which leads us in a different direction...
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:49 am
by mangocrazy
That actually looks finished, production-ready and real world usable. Plus I like the tank paintwork. I'd change the tyres for road use but not much else.
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:59 am
by weeksy
Can't argue, looks great and a lovely finish.
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:02 pm
by The Spin Doctor
Potter wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:25 pm
If they put a decent seat on it and hadn't made it look like someone has stolen the last 6" of the back end then it would be bang on.
I'd probably have put a proper front mudguard on as well.
That...
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:44 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Looks a lot like a Honda SL650 Vigor
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:48 pm
by The Spin Doctor
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:44 pm
Looks a lot like a Honda SL650 Vigor
One of the most inappropriately named bikes ever. I had a Dominator for a couple of years - it was a Californian import as it happens, and put 50-odd k miles on it... really liked it, though the seat was a misnomer. I had the misfortune to ride a 'Vigor' once. It could barely pull the skin off a rice pudding.
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:52 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
The Dominator was good, 44bhp I think, the Vigor struggles to make 30.
There was also a very nice XR650L sold in the US with the Dominator engine.
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:54 pm
by KungFooBob
Don't forget the FMX650!
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:24 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
KungFooBob wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:54 pm
Don't forget the FMX650!
If you could get one cheap you could throw a load of tuning bits into it and get a nice 50bhp bike
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:11 pm
by kendo57
I believe the Mash classic 650 uses a Chinese made Dominator engine

Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:21 pm
by KungFooBob
I raced/tuned a bike with the Honda RFVC engine, although the 500 not the 650.
The hemi head requires a two part cam follower, that wears a lot. The cam runs in a plain bearing, that wears a lot if there any slight impediment to oil flow.
Joy Engineering will knock you up an HRC RS600 replica cam... the RS600 was HRC's attempt at an oval racer to beat the HD XR750.
Wiseco sell an XR500 piston that fits the 500 version of the RFVC motor (XBR500).
Some people have got them near 60bhp. iirc my mates 2000 XR600 made about 36bhp on the dyno.
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:34 pm
by The Spin Doctor
kendo57 wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:11 pm
Mash have launched a range of bikes based on that motor including this one - the 'Six Hundred'...
https://mashmotors.co.uk/models/650cc/six-hundred-650/
Side on, it looks more like a classic Triumph than Triumph's offerings!
A tad under 40 hp and £4800 plus charges. I rather like it.
As well as the Six Hundred and the X-Ride, there's also a rather weird flat tracker.
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:53 am
by Taipan
Very nice indeed. I'd happily own and ride that!
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:50 am
by Jody
Not bad that, centre stand looks a little bulky though !
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:17 am
by Le_Fromage_Grande
KungFooBob wrote: Sun Jun 13, 2021 9:21 pm
I raced/tuned a bike with the Honda RFVC engine, although the 500 not the 650.
The hemi head requires a two part cam follower, that wears a lot. The cam runs in a plain bearing, that wears a lot if there any slight impediment to oil flow.
Joy Engineering will knock you up an HRC RS600 replica cam... the RS600 was HRC's attempt at an oval racer to beat the HD XR750.
Wiseco sell an XR500 piston that fits the 500 version of the RFVC motor (XBR500).
Some people have got them near 60bhp. iirc my mates 2000 XR600 made about 36bhp on the dyno.
Mid 30s sounds about right for an XR, my one felt about the same power (and weight) as the DRZ400S I replaced it with, DRZ handled a lot better by the way - but it should as it was a 15 year newer design.
Re: THE SEQUEL: ANOTHER HONDA DOMINATOR FROM HB-CUSTOM
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:30 am
by dylan22
amazing