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Unfortunately, quality of video doesn't show too much detail - but I anticipate it would be runny & brown'.

What @The Spin Doctor believes is termed 'a finely-judged overtake'

Prior to seeing the bike, the GPS logged me at 51mph, down to 38. And I was able to move slightly sideways.
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I left the bonnet of my car visible in the final pic

I'm generally of the belief that the biker has the situation under control, even if the car's don't think so.

Dodgy69 wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 4:11 pm I'm generally of the belief that the biker has the situation under control, even if the car's don't think so.

Yeah that's why Horse had to slow down to avoid running into them (I think?)

Dodgy69 wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 4:11 pm I'm generally of the belief that the biker has the situation under control, even if the car's don't think so.

He (guessing) may have thought so too. But as he didn't stick around for a chat I'll never know

I doubt the bike would of gone head on into a car.

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 4:17 pm

Dodgy69 wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 4:11 pm I'm generally of the belief that the biker has the situation under control, even if the car's don't think so.

Yeah that's why Horse had to slow down to avoid running into them (I think?)

Indeed. Applying firm braking and moving left (mindful of the earth bank).

Looking at the final pic, it looks to me as if his foot is above the centreline. If so, the pannier will have been some way across it.

Dodgy69 wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 4:20 pm I doubt the bike would of gone head on into a car.

What options do you think the rider had open to him?

The one he took looks fine to me. Its power or brake . We've all been there, yes its a tight one, not the first or last.

It probably looked OK when he started. Then he had an issue, brake or go for it. He decided to go for it. I worked, just.

We have all been there, most of us try not to go back again.

Cousin Jack wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 4:33 pm I worked, just.

Only because someone else (Horse) took avoiding action. If Horse hadn't the rider would have done what? Move into the car on their left and hope they can squeeze in? Or ride into the ditch on the other side of the road?

I can't remember if it was when I was learning to drive or ride (both were a while ago!) but I was told that anything which forces another driver to take avoiding action is bad driving. I tend to agree with that assessment.

BTW, that rider is also executing this dodgy overtake on the approach to a T-junction (hence the long white lines, and the fact you can see it in Horses pics) so it's a double naughty no-no If one of those cars had turned right I'm sure the biker would be annoyed at the SMIDSY which is partly their fault.

Dodgy69 wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 4:25 pm The one he took looks fine to me. Its power or brake . We've all been there, yes its a tight one, not the first or last.

As per @Mr. Dazzle 's question, if I hadn't slowed and made room?

At best he would have lost a pannier. If you'd been sat where I was, you might - literally - view it differently.

FWIW, those white line markings are 9m long.

He made a mistake. He was lucky, there was no skill involved. I probably lost more speed by braking than he could by accelerating.

Cousin Jack wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 4:33 pm It probably looked OK when he started. Then he had an issue, brake or go for it. He decided to go for it. I worked, just.

We have all been there, most of us try not to go back again.

Although he's just visible in one pic as he moved out, he would probably have made the decision earlier. So, really there were two poor decisions (in perfect 20:20 hindsight):

First, there was plenty of room as long as no oncoming vehicles. Which isn't a great basis for planning ...

Second, not aborting as soon as I came into view. At that point, any time spent dithering over decisions is wasting time and distance.

Oh - I haven't mentioned the really ironic but.

I was traveling home from arranging a funeral

Cousin Jack wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 4:33 pm We have all been there, most of us try not to go back again.

Yup, my 'favourite' was being sandwiched between two cars. Classic 'follow my leader' mistake.

Horse was going too fast and caused emotional distress to the poor biker.

Dr.Skub suggests Horse proceeds at a much reduced pace in the future.

Follow me for more helpful tips.

Skub wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 5:46 pm Horse was going too fast and caused emotional distress to the poor biker.

Dr.Skub suggests Horse proceeds at a much reduced pace in the future.

Follow me for more helpful tips.

Certainly not following you through overtakes

Horse wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 6:07 pm

Skub wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 5:46 pm Horse was going too fast and caused emotional distress to the poor biker.

Dr.Skub suggests Horse proceeds at a much reduced pace in the future.

Follow me for more helpful tips.

Certainly not following you through overtakes

Pah,I've never even died once. Yet.

Dodgy69 wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2025 4:11 pm I'm generally of the belief that the biker has the situation under control, even if the car's don't think so.

Course he did. He didn’t crash. What’s the issue?

And “generally” is a useful word.

As an aside, it’s unusual to see a GS without a battery of extra lights on it. Has he even switched off his drl’s?

Yes, I did that ^^ on purpose.