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Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:37 pm
by weeksy
Sone of the historical man made technologies from thousands of years ago may imply the visitation of other species.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/prem ... -by-aliens
It's not very far fetched to think they're out in the universe somewhere of course, it'd be silly to even think they're not. But have they been? What on earth would they have thought? If they came 5000 years ago and now, would they be pleased or disappointed with the progress made?
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:31 pm
by weeksy
Screwdriver wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:10 pm
No. It's never aliens.
There is a speed limit to the universe, the "speed of light" cannot be exceeded. Yes in theory you simply cannot travel
at the exact speed of light and superluminal velocity is not strictly forbidden but it does involve antimatter and if anti matter meets matter you get the biggest explosion possible.
Our galaxy is at least 100,000 light years across. If someone got here 5000 years ago, they would have to have come from inside this red circle which is about 5000 light years on this scale.
That's if they travelled at the speed of light. Naturally they have to decide to come here in particular for some unknown reason, slow down to stop, land and do whatever it is aliens do before leaving for <wherever>. Remembering Homo Sapiens was already here so we weren't "engineered" by them either.
Why does the speed of light need to be exceed? Surely it can be bypassed by technology? Black holes, wormholes, bending of space?
Plus, when you say "can't be exceeded" surely you mean 'within the capacity of our brains and technology currently ' ?
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:33 pm
by KungFooBob
You need expend all the energy (hence all the mass) of the universe to exceed the speed of light. E=MC² or something.
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:38 pm
by weeksy
KungFooBob wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:33 pm
You need expend all the energy (hence all the mass) of the universe to exceed the speed of light. E=MC² or something.
When I saw you'd posted I expected to see the Smash aliens and some joke.
I'm not sure what that says about me, or you.
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:39 pm
by KungFooBob
weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:38 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:33 pm
You need expend all the energy (hence all the mass) of the universe to exceed the speed of light. E=MC² or something.
When I saw you'd posted I expected to see the Smash aliens and some joke.
I'm not sure what that says about me, or you.
That's because of your anal probe.
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:47 pm
by Horse
Can just imagine this alien, in baggy overalls, sucking through his teeth, saying "Well, it's gonna take a bit longer than we expected. Can't get the stone, y'know."
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:09 pm
by MrLongbeard
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:15 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Anyone who's been to Stowmarket knows that aliens exist, they're just not very bright
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:30 pm
by JackyJoll
weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:37 pm
Sone of the historical man made technologies from thousands of years ago may imply the visitation of other species.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/prem ... -by-aliens
It's not very far fetched to think they're out in the universe somewhere of course, it'd be silly to even think they're not. But have they been? What on earth would they have thought? If they came 5000 years ago and now, would they be pleased or disappointed with the progress made?
A link to something I can’t see is hard to argue with.
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:39 pm
by Felix
Nasca lines. Is it a spider or a wee drawing of what they look like??????
- Wee man.jpg (421.33 KiB) Viewed 1153 times
Them three dicks must hurt when he runs.
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:53 pm
by ZRX61
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:15 pm
Anyone who's been to Stowmarket knows that aliens exist, they're just not very bright
Around here it's Barstow. It's not the end of the Earth, but you can see it from there.
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:05 pm
by mangocrazy
They walk among us.
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:36 pm
by Felix
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:05 pm
They walk among us.
Wishaw in Scotland. I was there a couple of days ago and yeah, they DO walk among us.
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:44 pm
by Yorick
It's amazing how some members are absolutely experts on every given subject
Maybe they should be given their own forum for them to educate us?
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 12:03 am
by Felix
Yorick wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:44 pm
It's amazing how some members are absolutely experts on every given subject
Maybe they should be given their own forum for them to educate us?
Add him to your extensive ignore list. Got to be better than following him around the forum to have drunken little whines no?
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:17 am
by weeksy
Yorick wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:44 pm
It's amazing how some members are absolutely experts on every given subject
Maybe they should be given their own forum for them to educate us?
Hush now, there's a time and a place. This wasn't it...
Perfectly nice debate going on
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:55 am
by Mr. Dazzle
Back to the OP post from a slightly different angle...
People from the past were just as smart as we are, on average. If you nabbed an ancient Egyptian or Aztec person or whatever and brought them forward to today they would fit right in, after a bit of education.
The existence of apparently advanced ideas 5000 years ago just says to me people were clever in the past too. That's a way simpler explanation for "out of place" ideas.
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:13 am
by Dodgy69
Jellyfish I rek.
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:26 am
by Rockburner
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:55 am
Back to the OP post from a slightly different angle...
People from the past were just as smart as we are, on average. If you nabbed an ancient Egyptian or Aztec person or whatever and brought them forward to today they would fit right in, after a bit of education.
The existence of apparently advanced ideas 5000 years ago just says to me people were clever in the past too. That's a way simpler explanation for "out of place" ideas.
To carry on that theme: all you have to do is look over some of the things that were patented (but not created) early on in the Industrial revolution. Lots of very clever ideas that simply didn't have the materials technology, or fabrication knowledge to be constructable at the time. Continue that theme back and you have weirdo alchemists dreaming things up but dismissing them as the product of too much fermented grade juice.
Re: Alien life, has it ever visited?
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:15 am
by Count Steer
weeksy wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:31 pm
Why does the speed of light need to be exceed? Surely it can be bypassed by technology? Black holes, wormholes, bending of space?
Plus, when you say "can't be exceeded" surely you mean 'within the capacity of our brains and technology currently ' ?
Don't see why it needs to be a factor at all. There's a few assumptions going on about how far away they may have come from and how long it took to get here. The speed of light thing only tells you a limit to how far they may have gone
since visiting, and they could still be travelling, or dead. They may have abandoned their home planet so there's no point looking to see if their relatives are still home really either.
Scanning the galaxy for signs of life probably won't help much given what we 'see' is what was there when the signal was created. Civilisations could have risen/fallen/moved on by the time the signal arrives here from somewhere umpteen light years away.
PS I don't believe they've visited here, at least not since our ancestors crawled up the beach and started breathing air on a regular basis.
