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Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 2:43 pm
by Taipan
Yorick wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 2:30 pm Last week Pen's pal was over here and she made us Hot cross buns with butter and thick honey. Woooo :obscene-birdiedoublered:
Pah! Cheese and marmite FTW! 8-)

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:02 pm
by Saga Lout
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:22 am I love the fact Reform don't really know what Woke means and they just use it to label anything they don't like :lol:
I guess you do know what woke means. Would you care to enlighten us?

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:14 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Taipan wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 2:43 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 2:30 pm Last week Pen's pal was over here and she made us Hot cross buns with butter and thick honey. Woooo :obscene-birdiedoublered:
Pah! Cheese and marmite FTW! 8-)
Hot cross bacon sandwiches :thumbup:

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:33 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:02 pm I guess you do know what woke means. Would you care to enlighten us?
It means being aware of injustice, prejudice and social issues.

It doesn't mean being offended by everything, which ironically is the ways it's often used by Reform and Daily Mail readers who are easily offended. :lol:

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:59 pm
by Horse
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:33 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:02 pm I guess you do know what woke means. Would you care to enlighten us?
It means being aware of injustice, prejudice and social issues.

It doesn't mean being offended by everything, which ironically is the ways it's often used by Reform and Daily Mail readers who are easily offended. :lol:
Google explains:

Woke is an adjective derived from African-American English used since the 1930s or earlier to refer to awareness of racial prejudice and discrimination

TBH, I'm surprised the term has been around so long.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:14 pm
by McNab
KungFooBob wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 2:26 pm Current bun, you mean a teacake?
No, I mean current bun. Like a hot cross bun, but without the cross.

Teacakes tend to be wider and flatter.

I don't know if it's just the shape that makes them different or the recipe is slightly different.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:39 pm
by Saga Lout
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:33 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:02 pm I guess you do know what woke means. Would you care to enlighten us?
It means being aware of injustice, prejudice and social issues.
Oh. I appear to be woke. How strange. :?

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:53 pm
by Buckaroo
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:39 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:33 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:02 pm I guess you do know what woke means. Would you care to enlighten us?
It means being aware of injustice, prejudice and social issues.
Oh. I appear to be woke. How strange. :?
You've just woke up.

That's also where it originates from: awoken to the 'insert your word here' injustice etc.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:39 pm
by Rockburner
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:39 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:33 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:02 pm I guess you do know what woke means. Would you care to enlighten us?
It means being aware of injustice, prejudice and social issues.
Oh. I appear to be woke. How strange. :?
Does that mean you are automatically thrown out of the Reform fan club?

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 7:45 pm
by Taipan
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:33 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:02 pm I guess you do know what woke means. Would you care to enlighten us?
It means being aware of injustice, prejudice and social issues.

It doesn't mean being offended by everything, which ironically is the ways it's often used by Reform and Daily Mail readers who are easily offended. :lol:
So that means Trump is woke? :think:

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:26 pm
by Saga Lout
Buckaroo wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:53 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:39 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:33 pm

It means being aware of injustice, prejudice and social issues.
Oh. I appear to be woke. How strange. :?
You've just woke up.
I think you mean woken up.

However, I'm not entirely happy with Mr Dazzle's definition. It seems to me that to be woke you have to be aware of injustice, prejudice and social issues only as they affect certain groups of people. But what do I know? I'm just an old, straight, white man.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:03 pm
by Wossname
I’m just a bit surprised, currantly….

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:27 pm
by Buckaroo
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:26 pm
Buckaroo wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:53 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:39 pm

Oh. I appear to be woke. How strange. :?
You've just woke up.
I think you mean woken up.

However, I'm not entirely happy with Mr Dazzle's definition. It seems to me that to be woke you have to be aware of injustice, prejudice and social issues only as they affect certain groups of people. But what do I know? I'm just an old, straight, white man.
I did and I am too!

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:28 pm
by Horse
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:26 pm [But what do I know? I'm just an old, straight, white man.
And is that [part of] the point? As another OSWM, I probably don't, can't, understand what it's like to endure permanent ongoing prejudice.

Odd, really, because many of us OSWM here are likely to have experienced unwarranted anti-motorcyclist prejudice and discrimination.

I've certainly been told to leave an empty (!) pub because they "Don't serve motorcyclists" (I asked whether we - my GF and I - were upsetting the customers?). And other, similar, experiences. Which pale into insignificance, really.

It wasn't that long ago that signs were seen stating "No blacks, no Irish, no dogs". Or that homosexuality was illegal.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 11:16 am
by Mussels
Horse wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 11:28 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:26 pm [But what do I know? I'm just an old, straight, white man.
And is that [part of] the point? As another OSWM, I probably don't, can't, understand what it's like to endure permanent ongoing prejudice.

Odd, really, because many of us OSWM here are likely to have experienced unwarranted anti-motorcyclist prejudice and discrimination.

I've certainly been told to leave an empty (!) pub because they "Don't serve motorcyclists" (I asked whether we - my GF and I - were upsetting the customers?). And other, similar, experiences. Which pale into insignificance, really.

It wasn't that long ago that signs were seen stating "No blacks, no Irish, no dogs". Or that homosexuality was illegal.
You've never worked alongside women in a traditionally male civil service job then.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 11:44 am
by Taipan
Woke was probably avery good thing to start with, given its original intentions, but is long since been hijacked into a far left movement with little resemblance to the original inception, and based on that, i'd probably agree with Reform UKs use of the word woke.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 11:55 am
by Mr. Dazzle
You'd be far from alone in that assessment. I'm guessing you're not using the term "hijacked" with any irony there either.


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Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 12:02 pm
by Mussels
Interesting that the original meaning wasn't even listed there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 12:02 pm
by Saga Lout
Taipan wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 11:44 am Woke was probably avery good thing to start with, given its original intentions, but is long since been hijacked into a far left movement with little resemblance to the original inception, and based on that, i'd probably agree with Reform UKs use of the word woke.
It started with good intentions to be "aware of injustice, prejudice and social issues" but gradually morphed into not saying or doing anything to offend anybody*. We're on the road to Hell, aren't we?


* Except the toxic elderly, and especially old, straight, white men. They're fair game. Say what you like about them, they caused all the world's problems.

Re: Insignificant/ Significant things that BYP or just wind you up a little

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 12:04 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Saga Lout wrote: Wed Apr 02, 2025 12:02 pm but gradually morphed into not saying or doing anything to offend anybody*
it's funny how it's mostly the people who suffer the least prejudice who think that, isn't it? :D Almost like they're the ones most often causing offence and least often being on the receiving end.

But lets not also forget, this point started because Taipan was offended by a made up story about some hot cross buns ;) Sounds like being easily offended to me.