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Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 10:09 am
by dern
One slightly annoying thing about the bike is that while is has the official Honda top box and case, I can't get my laptop to take to work in any of them. A full face lid fits in the top box as it's tall but not wide. Maybe this wasn't an issue ten years ago, I dunno. Even more annoying is that I left my old top box on the KTM as it was scruffy and took up a load of room in the garage. Oh well, you live and learn.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 10:11 am
by Count Steer
dern wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 9:52 am
Count Steer wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 9:41 am
dern wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 8:31 am
We can explain it to you but we can’t understand it for you.
Please start your own threads to satisfy your curiosity.
Actually. I understand it enough. I just disagree with you whether your bike is automatic or not.
I don't care
Neither do I.

Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 2:40 pm
by Supermofo
dern wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 10:09 am
One slightly annoying thing about the bike is that while is has the official Honda top box and case, I can't get my laptop to take to work in any of them. A full face lid fits in the top box as it's tall but not wide. Maybe this wasn't an issue ten years ago, I dunno. Even more annoying is that I left my old top box on the KTM as it was scruffy and took up a load of room in the garage. Oh well, you live and learn.
Break it in half, job jobbed
I know what you mean though, my top box is only 32 litres or something, luckily I only have a small laptop for work though so can get it in diagonally. Given that's what's called a scooter case I'm surprised a proper Honda touring case isn't wider though.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 4:59 pm
by Rockburner
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 8:43 am
Count Steer wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 7:37 am
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon May 29, 2023 8:11 pm
That distinction is blurred at best

. The kind of gearbox in your bike is no different to the kind in plenty of cars billed as "auto".
If you ain't gotta change gears yourself, it's an auto innit?
It does seem a bit like saying synchro gearboxes aren't really manual because you don't have to double de-clutch.
(You can change gear 'manually' on a Suzuki Burgman but I don't remember anyone claiming
they weren't automatic).
Should we do CVT next?
Mitsubishi made CVT Lancers, they weren't good, I don't remember anyone loving the DAF 33 either.
I loved my 55 coupe!
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 5:00 pm
by Rockburner
dern wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 8:59 am
KungFooBob wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 8:48 am
Everyone, stop posting tenuously related stuff on Dern's thread, it's obviously upsetting him, you bastards.
Xxx
Upsetting isn’t correct. Irritating the fuck out of is. It’s like having a bunch of old thick fuckwits wander in to your house continuing their argument over basic principals of something really simple that you don’t give a shit about while you’re watching tv despite the fact that you’ve asked them nicely to fuck off. HTH.
Have you heard of this thing called "the internet" before?
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 5:16 pm
by dern
Rockburner wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 5:00 pm
dern wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 8:59 am
KungFooBob wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 8:48 am
Everyone, stop posting tenuously related stuff on Dern's thread, it's obviously upsetting him, you bastards.
Xxx
Upsetting isn’t correct. Irritating the fuck out of is. It’s like having a bunch of old thick fuckwits wander in to your house continuing their argument over basic principals of something really simple that you don’t give a shit about while you’re watching tv despite the fact that you’ve asked them nicely to fuck off. HTH.
Have you heard of this thing called "the internet" before?
Yes but this is a project thread not a general discussion thread. I tried asking nicely.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 5:36 pm
by ChrisW
dern wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 7:19 pm
What's the black hook-like thing where the clutch reservoir otherwise have been?
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 5:51 pm
by dern
ChrisW wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 5:36 pm
dern wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 7:19 pm
What's the black hook-like thing where the clutch reservoir otherwise have been?
That’s the handbrake that you need because you can’t leave it in gear.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 5:57 pm
by Yorick
dern wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 5:51 pm
ChrisW wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 5:36 pm
dern wrote: Sun May 28, 2023 7:19 pm
What's the black hook-like thing where the clutch reservoir otherwise have been?
That’s the handbrake that you need because you can’t leave it in gear.
Is it automatic?

Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 6:01 pm
by dern
Yorick wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 5:57 pm
dern wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 5:51 pm
ChrisW wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 5:36 pm
What's the black hook-like thing where the clutch reservoir otherwise have been?
That’s the handbrake that you need because you can’t leave it in gear.
Is it automatic?
No, you have to do your own skids.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 6:14 pm
by ChrisW
dern wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 5:51 pm
That’s the handbrake that you need because you can’t leave it in gear.
Cheers - probably should have worked that out.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 6:20 pm
by Dodgy69
MVs have hand brakes.

Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 6:25 pm
by Dodgy69
In all seriousness...I ask myself what I like about riding motorbikes ??? answer is, it ain't gear changing.

Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 8:31 pm
by Bigjawa
Dodgy69 wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 6:25 pm
In all seriousness...I ask myself what I like about riding motorbikes ??? answer is, it ain't gear changing.
But that's the beauty of that VFR having the gear lever too, you have the choice if you want to go old skool.
Be interesting to try one IRL.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 5:25 pm
by Taipan
When I had DCTs I first thought D mode was a waste of time and hardy ever used it as it changed up so early. After a while I realised it is useful when leisurely riding about. S mode the rest of the time but you're only ever a button push from the right gear. I very rarely wound the throttle open to get it to change down, I just pushed the button 99% of the time. I loved DCT on a bike and wish my Ducati had it instead of manual box.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 2:42 pm
by dern
Fitted some R&G crash bungs to the bike today. I figured that the panel I had to drill through was a separate panel so it would be relatively easy to revert if someone wanted to in the future so having the extra protection to the more expensive main painted panels was a good idea considering the weight of the bike. I'm sure that they're not everyone's cup of tea but I think that they're a good idea. You can get them that are offset to the engine mounting bolt but having had those snap when the bike was dropped at a standstill I didn't want to fit those.
R&G provide some templates that work very well to get the hole in the right place and even though they weirdly print of a full page a4 containing a QR code to load up a webpage with instructions that you then print off, the quality is very good.

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Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 3:16 pm
by KungFooBob
As it's mounted where the R should be and it's got R&G on the end, does that make your bike a VFR&G?
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 4:20 pm
by Supermofo
Same bungs I got for mine. I know a few knock R&G but folk and engine sliders I got seemed decent and fitted well. Biggest problem I had was getting torque right whilst getting the angle of the bung right at the same time
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 11:06 pm
by dern
Nearly 500 miles and three weeks in and I really love this bike. Don’t miss the clutch, love the power, the weight isn’t an issue, cruising at speed is way better than the ktm and the gearbox allows really easy slow speed handling and filtering. Top bike.
Re: VFR1200F DCT
Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:46 pm
by dern
Found out why the steering was slower than I expected from this bike. Turns out the tyre pressure gauge I used was broken and the tyres were 5psi down each. Unsurprisingly at the correct pressure it’s way better. I think that this is one of the best all round bikes I’ve had. I may have bought it on a whim but I’m very glad I did. It’s what I expected my blackbird to be but even better and far far far better than the blackbird turned out to be.