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All cars since around the 90's are required to have laminated screens. Hence cracks, not shattering. What you don't want to do is headbut it, as you will acquire the delightfully named glass necklace.
Not to be confused with a pearl necklace.

Having finally got my 690 french registered it's time for insurance.

€50 a MONTH

David wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 9:29 am Hence cracks, not shattering. What you don't want to do is headbut it, as you will acquire the delightfully named glass necklace.

Total aside. I spent some time at a Met police traffic garage. They had a display board of car windscreen photos.

Specifically, post-crash police cars.

Every photo had one or two 'bulls eye' dents where the officers hadn't been wearing seatbelts

David wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 9:29 am All cars since around the 90's are required to have laminated screens. Hence cracks, not shattering. What you don't want to do is headbut it, as you will acquire the delightfully named glass necklace.
Not to be confused with a pearl necklace.

Road Safety was a big part of my last job in the army and we were always looking for things that we could use in campaigns to get our message across.

One time I got a report from HQ BAOR, complete with photos, of a senior officer who had been sat in the back of a staff car which had been involved in a head on collision. The officer was sat in the middle of the back seat without a seat belt and had been thrown forward and had headbutted the windscreen. His head fractured the laminated screen and as he fell back into the car his hair was trapped in the glass of the windscreen. That's what the photos were of, his hair still attached to the glass. The emergency services had given him a haircut to release him.

We copied the report and photos, added a couple of points that needed to be said - if he'd been sat behind the driver, a WRAC lass, he could have killed her, he could have got his head all the way through the glass and killed himself and if there had been a fire . . . We produced a report for every officer of Lt Colonel and above (some of them would almost certainly have known the officer) and I took the General's copy to him personally so I could tell him what we were doing but also because I knew he always wore the seat belt in his staff car so I didn't want him to think we were having a go at him.

As mini campaigns went, it was very successful with reports back from staff car drivers that they weren't having to ask officers to wear the seat belt, which was always a pain for them as senior officers don't like being told what to do by lance corporals.

I would have to question the intelligence of anyone who needs to be told you should wear a seatbelt

Seems to be a thing with senior people in limos judging from photos. Maybe they think physics will defer to their authority.

Regarding vehicles it seems I'm deaf, insensitive and now thick*. Some of my journeys are very short and on roads with virtually no traffic.

And before it's suggested I should walk or ride a bicycle, as magnificent a human specimen I am I find it difficult to carry much over 100kgs for any distance.

*White van man archetype?

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 12:13 pm I would have to question the intelligence of anyone who needs to be told you should wear a seatbelt

Seems to be a thing with senior people in limos judging from photos. Maybe they think physics will defer to their authority.

It became a legal requirement in 1983. Seems to me a lot of people needed to be told.

In the military it was requirement from well before that - it was certainly a requirement in 1968 when I started driving military vehicles although it was qualified by "if seatbelts were fitted they were to be worn".

Arrogance from senior officers was never unheard of.

Likely as not, if you were to google image search "[world leader of your choice] limo" nearly every photo would show them in the car not wearing a seatbelt.

I don't think its limited to senior officers. Seniority it general overrides danger

Yambo wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 11:24 am senior officers don't like being told what to do

I'm sure there are times when they're grateful

Horse wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 1:02 pm

Yambo wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 11:24 am senior officers don't like being told what to do

I'm sure there are times when they're grateful

The appointment I held was established (in 1970) because senior officers were regularly having to go to court (perhaps as a 'nominated representative) due to the military breaking road transport laws. It got rather embarrasing so the Army (who were the main offenders) established the appointment of Master Driver. As I told the new GOC of the 1st Armd Division in 1988, I was his 'No' man as opposed to all the 'Yes' men he was surrounded by.

There were only 27 Master Drivers for the army and the other services didn't have any similar post so we occasionally assisted them. As an advisor to all Commanders in the Division for all aspects of transport management, road safety, traffic and transport law (military regs, UK and German law), driver training and testing, health and safety in the transport environment as well as running the Army Licensing Authority in the Division, managing 35+ driving examiners and now and again having to play soldiers (Desk Officer (Transport) in the Divisional Rear HQ) I was pretty busy and had to be fairly switched on. If some arrogant prick of a Major didn't like my attitude and called me 'Sergeant Major' they found out that I was also a pretty good communicator. If they wanted to push things "I'll have a word with your Commanding Officer!" I used to say "The General will be expecting your call Sir." and I would report the conversation to the Dep Chief of Staff. Great job, great times.

I said to a Lieutenant one time "If you are so stupid and irresponsible in that you are breaking Uk Law, German Law and Military Regulations, do you think you are responsible enough to command soldiers?".

So yeah, they were often grateful for my input.

Horse wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 1:02 pm

Yambo wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 11:24 am senior officers don't like being told what to do

I'm sure there are times when they're grateful

The 2 who joined in at the end are on the wrong foot.

What do I win?

Wossname wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 2:00 pm

Horse wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 1:02 pm

Yambo wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 11:24 am senior officers don't like being told what to do

I'm sure there are times when they're grateful

The 2 who joined in at the end are on the wrong foot.

What do I win?

A soapy tenner.

They're pretty sloppy, those two.

Grey cars.

Macadamia nuts.

The new Sonos app.

Belgians called Kevin.

Toilet paper that refuses to flush.

gremlin wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:18 pm Grey cars.

Macadamia nuts.

The new Sonos app.

Belgians called Kevin.

Toilet paper that refuses to flush.

Got the painters in dear?

Yorick wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:37 pm

gremlin wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:18 pm Grey cars.

Macadamia nuts.

The new Sonos app.

Belgians called Kevin.

Toilet paper that refuses to flush.

Got the painters in dear?

Just getting a week's worth out there. Cathartic. Know what I mean?

gremlin wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:45 pm

Yorick wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:37 pm

gremlin wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:18 pm Grey cars.

Macadamia nuts.

The new Sonos app.

Belgians called Kevin.

Toilet paper that refuses to flush.

Got the painters in dear?

Just getting a week's worth out there. Cathartic. Know what I mean?

Can I have a go ?

It's 25c right now.
Beer is €1.50.

How's that?

Yorick wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:47 pm

gremlin wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:45 pm

Yorick wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:37 pm

Got the painters in dear?

Just getting a week's worth out there. Cathartic. Know what I mean?

Can I have a go ?

It's 25c right now.
Beer is €1.50.

How's that?

Bog paper flushing?

Yorick wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:47 pm Can I have a go ?

It's 25c right now.
Beer is €1.50.

How's that?

Was it cheaper and warmer last week?

gremlin wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:48 pm

Yorick wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:47 pm

gremlin wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:45 pm

Just getting a week's worth out there. Cathartic. Know what I mean?

Can I have a go ?

It's 25c right now.
Beer is €1.50.

How's that?

Bog paper flushing?

Bidet, darling

Yorick wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 7:47 pm Can I have a go ?
It's 25c right now.
Beer is €1.50.

How's that?

Rubbish, it's 19c here and I'm drinking beer at 75p a bottle whilst enjoying slow cooked on the BBQ crispy bacon