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Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:58 pm
by weeksy
Yorick wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:52 pm
They charge 70 - 90 per hour. The mechanic gets 20 of that. The garage is raping you for the rest.
You mean paying for their premises, their staff, etc ?
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:20 pm
by Yorick
weeksy wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:58 pm
Yorick wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:52 pm
They charge 70 - 90 per hour. The mechanic gets 20 of that. The garage is raping you for the rest.
You mean paying for their premises, their staff, etc ?
That's not my problem. If you go to a fancy showroom, you pay a lot more than a smaller garage. Your choice.
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:29 pm
by Taipan
Yorick wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:20 pm
weeksy wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:58 pm
Yorick wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:52 pm
They charge 70 - 90 per hour. The mechanic gets 20 of that. The garage is raping you for the rest.
You mean paying for their premises, their staff, etc ?
That's not my problem. If you go to a fancy showroom, you pay a lot more than a smaller garage. Your choice.
That's why mobile mechanics used to be cheaper still, but you cant say a main dealers is a rip off as such. Bigger places with bigger workshops and more staff means more overheads. When I worked at a (car) dealership, you were also expected to carry £xxxxx in parts stock and merch etc. Also worth noting that on modern vehicles the dealer plugs in the OBD port and there can be software updates to come through. You wont get that at Bobs Bikes under the arches!
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:34 pm
by weeksy
Taipan wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:29 pm
Yorick wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:20 pm
weeksy wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:58 pm
You mean paying for their premises, their staff, etc ?
That's not my problem. If you go to a fancy showroom, you pay a lot more than a smaller garage. Your choice.
That's why mobile mechanics used to be cheaper still, but you cant say a main dealers is a rip off as such. Bigger places with bigger workshops and more staff means more overheads. When I worked at a (car) dealership, you were also expected to carry £xxxxx in parts stock and merch etc. Also worth noting that on modern vehicles the dealer plugs in the OBD port and there can be software updates to come through. You wont get that at Bobs Bikes under the arches!
Or buy new bikes as all the dealers have closed down because no one uses them. Or have new technology developed as there's no manufacturers left either, etc etc.
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:35 pm
by Yorick
weeksy wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:34 pm
Taipan wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:29 pm
Yorick wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:20 pm
That's not my problem. If you go to a fancy showroom, you pay a lot more than a smaller garage. Your choice.
That's why mobile mechanics used to be cheaper still, but you cant say a main dealers is a rip off as such. Bigger places with bigger workshops and more staff means more overheads. When I worked at a (car) dealership, you were also expected to carry £xxxxx in parts stock and merch etc. Also worth noting that on modern vehicles the dealer plugs in the OBD port and there can be software updates to come through. You wont get that at Bobs Bikes under the arches!
Or buy new bikes as all the dealers have closed down because no one uses them. Or have new technology developed as there's no manufacturers left either, etc etc.
If the dealers didn't charge so much, they'd survive. They don't need a 5* showroom.
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:38 pm
by weeksy
Yorick wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:35 pm
weeksy wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:34 pm
Taipan wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 6:29 pm
That's why mobile mechanics used to be cheaper still, but you cant say a main dealers is a rip off as such. Bigger places with bigger workshops and more staff means more overheads. When I worked at a (car) dealership, you were also expected to carry £xxxxx in parts stock and merch etc. Also worth noting that on modern vehicles the dealer plugs in the OBD port and there can be software updates to come through. You wont get that at Bobs Bikes under the arches!
Or buy new bikes as all the dealers have closed down because no one uses them. Or have new technology developed as there's no manufacturers left either, etc etc.
If the dealers didn't charge so much, they'd survive. They don't need a 5* showroom.
Well we're clearly not going to agree, so left move on..
@Dodgy knees what winter mods you thinking?
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:01 pm
by Dodgy69
A woolly helmet.

Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:09 pm
by Dodgy69
Put the best part of 200 miles on it today. Dry in the sun but where the sun don't shine, care required. Got home and pillion seat and jacket once again covered in shit. That's with the box on.
There's a gap between seat and rack/box and spray is coming through. Got to think of something to block this up, maybe a piece of plastic/perspex to fill gap cabled tied to rack. Not great for a new bike.
I have had a few bikes with tidys on and never had it as bad as this. Problem being the short arse end of these bikes, along with yamaha official tail tidy. Cracking bike though.
Any ideas appreciated.

Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:15 pm
by Skub
Dodgy knees wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:09 pm
Put the best part of 200 miles on it today. Dry in the sun but where the sun don't shine, care required. Got home and pillion seat and jacket once again covered in shit. That's with the box on.
There's a gap between seat and rack/box and spray is coming through. Got to think of something to block this up, maybe a piece of plastic/perspex to fill gap cabled tied to rack. Not great for a new bike.
I have had a few bikes with tidys on and never had it as bad as this. Problem being the short arse end of these bikes, along with yamaha official tail tidy. Cracking bike though.
Any ideas appreciated.
The badger was right then.
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:24 pm
by Dodgy69
I wouldn't want to be a pillion that's for sure I may be able to move the rack support bar forward, hopefully closing the gap.

Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:31 pm
by weeksy
Dodgy knees wrote: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:09 pm
Put the best part of 200 miles on it today. Dry in the sun but where the sun don't shine, care required. Got home and pillion seat and jacket once again covered in shit. That's with the box on.
There's a gap between seat and rack/box and spray is coming through. Got to think of something to block this up, maybe a piece of plastic/perspex to fill gap cabled tied to rack. Not great for a new bike.
I have had a few bikes with tidys on and never had it as bad as this. Problem being the short arse end of these bikes, along with yamaha official tail tidy. Cracking bike though.
Any ideas appreciated.
Fit the standard back end on again?
Only ride in summer?
Trailer it to dry places?
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:37 pm
by Dodgy69
Don't like standard and it's staying in the bin. It'll get sorted sooner or later.
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:59 pm
by Dodgy69
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:44 pm
by Dodgy69
Thought I better try front end stand. Works great. 3rd bike now. Bought for sdgt, then when tracer arrived had to take some metal off the insert bit. Tracer and mt must be about the same. All good for tyre swaps.
First service tomorrow.

Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:50 pm
by tricol
That screen looks great, doesn't look too big in the photos. Threw my leg over an SP at the weekend, really nice. Feels a similar size and fit to my Trident.
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 2:55 pm
by Dodgy69
Definitely lower than a tracer. Light as a feather.
You still happy with the trident.??
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:11 pm
by tricol
Yea, can't complain too much other than a stinking dealer experience with a warranty issue.
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:35 pm
by Supermofo
tricol wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:11 pm
Yea, can't complain too much other than a stinking dealer experience with a warranty issue.
Was that the rear light? Was that sorted?
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 3:41 pm
by tricol
Yea, was picked up at the first service. Sat in the dealer for almost 3 weeks with pretty much communication or call backs. A very long story short I went to Triumph direct and got it sorted.
The bike has been great, other than a very clunky gearbox. 2nd to 3rd and to 4th can often be as clunky as engaging first from neutral. I've read this quite a few times on owners groups. But everything else about the bike is great so far.
Re: Tracer out...MT09 in. 😁👍
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:21 pm
by Dodgy69
Changing gear at different revs makes no difference I presume. May smooth out with miles.
