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You guys must have high standards, Jesus I’ve fucked far far worse than them. I even fucked a scouser bird once...derek badger wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:57 pmGood shout. At least you wouldn't have to look at their pouting 'real housewives of Leicestershire' faces.Wreckless Rat wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:40 pm should have shagged the living daylights out of them, up the gary, no lube. That'd learn 'em.
Wreckless Rat wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:32 pmYou guys must have high standards, Jesus I’ve fucked far far worse than them. I even fucked a scouser bird once...derek badger wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:57 pmGood shout. At least you wouldn't have to look at their pouting 'real housewives of Leicestershire' faces.Wreckless Rat wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 4:40 pm should have shagged the living daylights out of them, up the gary, no lube. That'd learn 'em.
Guidance is guidance, law is law. The Highway Code, for instance, tells us what we SHOULD or SHOULD NOT do (guidance) and what we MUST or MUST NOT do (law). It is not against the law to disregard guidance, otherwise it would be law.Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 1:25 pmSo yeah, they're breaching the guidance.You should minimise time spent outside your home, but you can leave your home to exercise. This should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area.
I would've said they're breaking the law, but I honestly don't know what's guidance and what's law ATM. Hence why I am sticking to the guidance.
Edit. I would say that if you have to drive there to exercise then it ain't local. If you ran the 5 miles I might feel differently
If the government wanted the guidance to be the law they would have put it into the law and called it the law.Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:25 pm The lockdown is now law.
I just dunno if the law says "do what the guidance says" or it's more specific or what.
I totally agree Leicestershire police have stated they wouldn't have dished out a fine, Derbyshire did I suppose that was a problem to them . Would be easier to say you can't drive to exercise....Gedge wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:00 pmWhy is going through Leicestershire a problem ? All country is in lockdown so as I understand it Tier boundaries don’t apply , so the only requirement is essential travel or travel in order to exercise ..neilf wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:20 pm This is very local to me, one "problem" for them although it is only 5 miles they have gone from a Leicestershire postcode to a Derbyshire one, still in my opinion very harsh. There is a picture of at least three police vehicles and 4 or 5 employees at the main entrance to Calke in the local press, and one person who lives 5 miles away got fined there yesterday. They are supposed to have stopped and chatted to the officers, who then when they offered to drive home slapped them with a fine. Howcome if your car or house is being broken into and you phone the police they are undermanned and can't send anyone?
So did I break the law yesterday? I travelled into work from an LE postcode to a DE one, with the wife and one of the dogs. The job I do we can't WFH, but instead of travelling home together me and the dog walked the 8.5 miles home across the "local" footpaths. So should I turn myself in and pay the fine?
A half decent solicitor should be able to drive a horse and carriage through this case ..
AFAIA, and I could be wrong, but the absolutes (can’t go to someone else’s house, wear masks in shops etc) are law, things like travelling for exercise are guidance as long as you’re doing it under the right conditions (from people within your own household).Saga Lout wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:49 pm
If the government wanted the guidance to be the law they would have put it into the law and called it the law.
You'd probably catch more than corona knowing ashby lasses.Asian Boss wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:32 pm Lockdown schmockdown. They're fit. I'd bum them into the middle of next week.
The fact police are issuing fines would suggest its the lawSaga Lout wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:49 pmIf the government wanted the guidance to be the law they would have put it into the law and called it the law.Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:25 pm The lockdown is now law.
I just dunno if the law says "do what the guidance says" or it's more specific or what.
I see several reasons not to in fact!OTOH the law has occasionally been proved to be an ass. Perhaps they were trying to save donkeykindSaga Lout wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:49 pmIf the government wanted the guidance to be the law they would have put it into the law and called it the law.Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:25 pm The lockdown is now law.
I just dunno if the law says "do what the guidance says" or it's more specific or what.
Makes you wonder why we go to the expense of having courts and judges if police get it right every time.Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 10:39 pmThe fact police are issuing fines would suggest its the law
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cheb wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:39 am Ah, a review of the fines. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-d ... e-55594244
So the force will now actually comply with the guidance? Good-oh, well done boys.The guidance said: "The Covid regulations which officers enforce and which enables them to issue FPNs [fixed penalty notices] for breaches, do not restrict the distance travelled for exercise."
The NPCC added that rather than issue fines for people who travel out of their local area "but are not breaching regulations, officers will encourage people to follow the guidance".
The force has now said it will be "aligning to adhere to this stance".
