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Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:36 am
by weeksy
Yorick wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:47 am Why are the insurance paying for a bike defect?
I'd say it was more down to me not tightening the bolts after removing and fitting the wheel.
Tricky wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:55 am
ChrisW wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:32 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 1:59 pm

Honestly no idea man... i've not read enough to form much of an opinion i must admit.
I have an R6 tube on my MT07 & it's definitely worthwhile, the standard throw is way too long. Honestly no negative side effects.
Me too, and it's not even a Yamaha- have the same tube (R1 part no) on my ZX6, makes it much quicker action
Yorick wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:47 am Why are the insurance paying for a bike defect?
Because of course it ain't a defect - the damage wouldn't have happened if the nuts hadn't come off...
Aye
Tricky wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:59 am
weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 7:38 am Well i wasn't going to post this... but hey, why not... 30s after the pic above, i noticed this

Image2022-03-16_02-06-29 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr

WTF happened there then... Well i thought someone had smacked it while i was having coffee and damaged it.

But i sat and thought more about it and ended up Googling about a bit on the internet i found some distinctly similar threads on the Kawasaki 300 forums. It seems the 2 adjuster nuts have likely come loose and spun the retaining block which in turn causes damage to the swingarm.

Is that a bit of a bugger, well yes, just a bit.

I've had to suck it up and sent it to the insurance company for repair. They were initially going to use a company called 4th Dimension who are their repairer, but i wanted to use Yamaha instead to ensure i get genuine parts and a genuine Yamaha mechanic.

The odds are, as i was the last person to touch the back end, this is on me in terms of 'who did what'....

Happily, apart from what you can see, it's 100% fine... So once that's sorted we'll be all good again. Apart from the wallet.
Hmmm, bummer, but not a biggie to sort by the look of it- will it really be financially worthwhile to involve insurance?- I'd be just getting a new adjuster assembly and sorting the swing-arm damage myself.
That pic oes show how much built down to a price it is though eh :(
As it's a brand new bike i'll stick with getting them to do it. Buying even a used Swingarm is more than my excess, plus the fitting.... I'm not hammering it back and leaving it half arsed. It'll be a bit of a hit, but i'd rather have it 100%

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:38 am
by weeksy
Taipan wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:25 am In all seriousness, isn't this a brand new one? Surely that's down to the dealer for not doing the PDI properly?
I had the wheel out to clean it... Whether i tell them that when it goes into Yamaha though hahahahaa.

Nah, i don't think it's their/Yamahas fault... although i'd have thought as I removed it, re-fitted it 20 mins later i shouldn't have needed to tighten them as it must sit in the same place still... It is a poor design, but clearly by the fact not many seem to have had it, it's likely user error.

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:50 am
by Skub
Some of those chain links are dirty.

Standards are slipping. :(

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:55 am
by weeksy
Skub wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:50 am Some of those chain links are dirty.

Standards are slipping. :(
LOL i'd only been back 10 minutes... The toys were properly out of the pram then as i thought someone/something had smacked it.

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:30 pm
by Supermofo
If you were keeping it I'd sort it properly.

But given this probably won't last 18 month, probably more likely 12 I'd sort it myself. That doesn't mean a proper bodge job but a decent repair shouldn't be too much and won't impact your NCB. But sounds like it's too late for that.

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:32 pm
by weeksy
Supermofo wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:30 pm If you were keeping it I'd sort it properly.

But given this probably won't last 18 month, probably more likely 12 I'd sort it myself. That doesn't mean a proper bodge job but a decent repair shouldn't be too much and won't impact your NCB. But sounds like it's too late for that.
NCB is protected and TBH if i sell this one, i don't see another bike coming in. If this goes i'm likely to throw in my hand.

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:12 pm
by weeksy
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154790307456 ... SwJ1Nh4Elr

Hmmm. That'd save me a chunk of money on my excess along with my NCB

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:24 pm
by KungFooBob
MCE?

Are they selling off bits of bikes they've written off?

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:26 pm
by weeksy
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:24 pm MCE?

Are they selling off bits of bikes they've written off?
That would be a reasonable assumption yeah. But only an issue if it was twatted on rear lol.

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:31 pm
by KungFooBob
I thought the insurers just auctioned them off and breakers bought them.

I guess cutting out the middleman makes more money for MCE.

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:38 pm
by ChrisW
If you're going to replace the swingarm why not have a go with one from a Tracer - slightly longer but aluminium and threaded for bobbins.

Often thought about it myself.

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:39 pm
by weeksy
ChrisW wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:38 pm If you're going to replace the swingarm why not have a go with one from a Tracer - slightly longer but aluminium and threaded for bobbins.

Often thought about it myself.
Not sure about shock mounts etc. You can see the 14-18 for example wouldn't fit mine due to that.

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:40 pm
by Yorick
weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:12 pm https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154790307456 ... SwJ1Nh4Elr

Hmmm. That'd save me a chunk of money on my excess along with my NCB
I still don't see how you can claim on your insurance ???

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:42 pm
by weeksy
Yorick wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:40 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:12 pm https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154790307456 ... SwJ1Nh4Elr

Hmmm. That'd save me a chunk of money on my excess along with my NCB
I still don't see how you can claim on your insurance ???
Why not? It's accidental damage, same as if I dropped it off sidestand at home? Or in a random car park.

The only difference to normal is that I'm not claiming against anyone, other than my insurance company.

What happens if your TV falls off the wall, you claim against your insurance which covers accidental damage.

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:44 pm
by Yorick
weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:42 pm
Yorick wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:40 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:12 pm https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154790307456 ... SwJ1Nh4Elr

Hmmm. That'd save me a chunk of money on my excess along with my NCB
I still don't see how you can claim on your insurance ???
Why not? It's accidental damage, same as if I dropped it off sidestand at home? Or in a random car park.

The only difference to normal is that I'm not claiming against anyone, other than my insurance company.

What happens if your TV falls off the wall, you claim against your insurance which covers accidental damage.
I had a 2 day old GSXR1000 fall off sidestand. Never thought of claiming. Surely they'd say self inflicted or numptiness?

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:45 pm
by weeksy
Yorick wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:44 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:42 pm
Yorick wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:40 pm
I still don't see how you can claim on your insurance ???
Why not? It's accidental damage, same as if I dropped it off sidestand at home? Or in a random car park.

The only difference to normal is that I'm not claiming against anyone, other than my insurance company.

What happens if your TV falls off the wall, you claim against your insurance which covers accidental damage.
I had a 2 day old GSXR1000 fall off sidestand. Never thought of claiming. Surely they'd say self inflicted or numptiness?
Lol they'd say "of course sir, how would you like it fixing"

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:46 pm
by Yorick
Crash it on track, then tell insurance it fell off side stand then bounced 50 yards :obscene-birdiedoublered:

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:08 pm
by Taipan
weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:12 pm https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154790307456 ... SwJ1Nh4Elr

Hmmm. That'd save me a chunk of money on my excess along with my NCB
I'd get that bought, if me were thee...

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:09 pm
by weeksy
Taipan wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:08 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 3:12 pm https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154790307456 ... SwJ1Nh4Elr

Hmmm. That'd save me a chunk of money on my excess along with my NCB
I'd get that bought, if me were thee...
I've asked for some decent pics, but as I'm on my phone I can't really check it's ok at the moment.

But it's a good price and looks ok on phone

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.

Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:28 pm
by Skub
Is the damage really that bad?

If that was fixed and touched in,you'd never know,plus it's not like you'd be hiding something that's going to cause catastrophic failure for any future owner.