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Re: GSX-S 750

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You getting the valves done?

Puncture would be a pain, since my 2 punctures the amount of screws and nails I've picked up from roads around my village is ridiculous.
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Re: GSX-S 750

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Yes, valve clearances, been told it will cost about £600 if the valve clearances are okay, £800 if any shims need changing.
Puncture would be an arse, but the rear tyre has done around 3500 miles and the front at least 6000, so I might put a new pair of tyres on it, something grippier than the current Pirelli Angels.
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Re: GSX-S 750

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Yeech, hope they are in spec then.

I'll look forward to that bill, although mine will be out of warranty long before then so I can go anywhere.
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I'd be amazed if any valves needed shimmed at double that mileage.
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Skub wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:19 pm I'd be amazed if any valves needed shimmed at double that mileage.
So will I, but it's as well to get them checked, having looked at what needs to come off to get to the valves £600 is about right, it's not like my Kawasaki where you take the tank off and then the cam cover is directly underneath, and that takes me a couple of hours.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:11 pm Yes, valve clearances, been told it will cost about £600 if the valve clearances are okay, £800 if any shims need changing.
Fark. That's a rip off.
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Yorick wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:11 pm Yes, valve clearances, been told it will cost about £600 if the valve clearances are okay, £800 if any shims need changing.
Fark. That's a rip off.
It's nearly all labour, tank off, radiator off, air box off, fuel injection off, then you can get to the cam cover, then put all that lot back on.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:28 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:11 pm Yes, valve clearances, been told it will cost about £600 if the valve clearances are okay, £800 if any shims need changing.
Fark. That's a rip off.
It's nearly all labour, tank off, radiator off, air box off, fuel injection off, then you can get to the cam cover, then put all that lot back on.
YEah but he could get it done for £40 back on the island :)
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:28 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:11 pm Yes, valve clearances, been told it will cost about £600 if the valve clearances are okay, £800 if any shims need changing.
Fark. That's a rip off.
It's nearly all labour, tank off, radiator off, air box off, fuel injection off, then you can get to the cam cover, then put all that lot back on.
But everything is off when they check the shims anyway. They won't know they need changing until then.
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weeksy wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:29 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:28 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm

Fark. That's a rip off.
It's nearly all labour, tank off, radiator off, air box off, fuel injection off, then you can get to the cam cover, then put all that lot back on.
YEah but he could get it done for £40 back on the island :)
Very droll but there's no prize for paying stupid money.
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Yorick wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:38 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:29 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:28 pm

It's nearly all labour, tank off, radiator off, air box off, fuel injection off, then you can get to the cam cover, then put all that lot back on.
YEah but he could get it done for £40 back on the island :)
Very droll but there's no prize for paying stupid money.
But that's the cost over here. It's that simple really isn't it? He can't take it somewhere and offer them half the money, the price is the price.
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Re: GSX-S 750

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Yorick wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:37 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:28 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:24 pm

Fark. That's a rip off.
It's nearly all labour, tank off, radiator off, air box off, fuel injection off, then you can get to the cam cover, then put all that lot back on.
But everything is off when they check the shims anyway. They won't know they need changing until then.
The £600 is to take all that stuff off, they wouldn't take any of that off for a normal service and a normal service doesn't cost £600, there's then another £200 if any shims need changing as the cams have to come out, I don't know what they're charging for labour, but I think it's about £80 an hour.

How much do you think a 15000 mile service on a Suzuki 16 valve engine should cost, it's got a very similar engine to your GSXR.
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weeksy wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:47 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:38 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:29 pm

YEah but he could get it done for £40 back on the island :)
Very droll but there's no prize for paying stupid money.
But that's the cost over here. It's that simple really isn't it? He can't take it somewhere and offer them half the money, the price is the price.
I never paid more than about £200 in the UK coz I avoided posh shiny places. Back street garage can have same skilled mechanics at a fraction of the cost.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:50 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:37 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:28 pm

It's nearly all labour, tank off, radiator off, air box off, fuel injection off, then you can get to the cam cover, then put all that lot back on.
But everything is off when they check the shims anyway. They won't know they need changing until then.
The £600 is to take all that stuff off, they wouldn't take any of that off for a normal service and a normal service doesn't cost £600, there's then another £200 if any shims need changing as the cams have to come out, I don't know what they're charging for labour, but I think it's about £80 an hour.

How much do you think a 15000 mile service on a Suzuki 16 valve engine should cost, it's got a very similar engine to your GSXR.
As I said above, I never paid more than £200.
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Franchised dealer is always going to be spendy. Once out of warranty,then it's handy to do it yourself,or have a pet spanner spinner. It'll be a lot cheaper then.
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Skub wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 6:05 pm Franchised dealer is always going to be spendy. Once out of warranty,then it's handy to do it yourself,or have a pet spanner spinner. It'll be a lot cheaper then.
Don't need to use fancy places to protect warranty.
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Yorick wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:31 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:47 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:38 pm

Very droll but there's no prize for paying stupid money.
But that's the cost over here. It's that simple really isn't it? He can't take it somewhere and offer them half the money, the price is the price.
I never paid more than about £200 in the UK coz I avoided posh shiny places. Back street garage can have same skilled mechanics at a fraction of the cost.
How many 15000 mile services did you have on the GSXRs where you bought a new one every year, from memory, all the SRAD onwards GSXR engines have 15000 mile valve clearances checks

I'm capable of checking valve clearances myself, if I wanted to save money, I fitted a new cam chain in my Kawasaki engine last year, but I didn't buy this bike to fiddle with, so I'm happy for the Suzuki dealership to do the work.
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 9:11 pm
Yorick wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:31 pm
weeksy wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 4:47 pm

But that's the cost over here. It's that simple really isn't it? He can't take it somewhere and offer them half the money, the price is the price.
I never paid more than about £200 in the UK coz I avoided posh shiny places. Back street garage can have same skilled mechanics at a fraction of the cost.
How many 15000 mile services did you have on the GSXRs where you bought a new one every year, from memory, all the SRAD onwards GSXR engines have 15000 mile valve clearances checks

I'm capable of checking valve clearances myself, if I wanted to save money, I fitted a new cam chain in my Kawasaki engine last year, but I didn't buy this bike to fiddle with, so I'm happy for the Suzuki dealership to do the work.
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I can't see how you'd get a valve service for £200 without the matey-est of mates rates. Even the backest of backstreet garages around here charge £80 for a oil/filter in a car.
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Supermofo wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:27 am I can't see how you'd get a valve service for £200 without the matey-est of mates rates. Even the backest of backstreet garages around here charge £80 for a oil/filter in a car.
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