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Re: best DAS bike?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:43 pm
by The Spin Doctor
rodbargee wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:37 pm Yes a bike to do DAS on..
What's wrong with using the school bike?

Am I missing something?

Re: best DAS bike?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:13 pm
by rodbargee
dont think so The BIl fancies buying something to do it on and keep for a bit

Re: best DAS bike?

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 11:40 pm
by Bigyin
rodbargee wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:13 pm dont think so The BIl fancies buying something to do it on and keep for a bit
As Spin said, use the school bike THEN decide on what he likes. If you drop the school bikes they are covered in crash protection and usually have a stock of spare levers and crash bungs etc.

His DAS course will have the use of the bike/insurance and built in and crash damage is an accepted part of the training for the school.

Had a guy today on a CBT who drives a car and has already bought a low mileage Yamaha FZ6 which is an ideal first bike for a full license holder.

Shame he struggles to ride a 125 and will need a shit load more training to get to grips even with a 125 never mind his 600 as he confuses the clutch lever with the brake lever and also tries to change gear without using the clutch. :shock: :shock: :shock:

He will get there, but will take some time

Re: best DAS bike?

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:51 am
by Bigjawa
The Spin Doctor wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 8:42 pm
The only 125 I've ridden with a big bike feel is the Varadero.
The old CZ125s always felt bug as they actually were a downsized bigger bike, so did the 125 MZs.

Re: best DAS bike?

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:17 am
by The Spin Doctor
rodbargee wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 10:13 pm dont think so The BIl fancies buying something to do it on and keep for a bit
Not all trainees drop a bike, by a long way... but enough do to make it worth the ATB covering it in crash protection, as BigYin says.

Get him to cost up:

bar end weight
handlebar
front brake lever
front offside indicator
rear offside indicator
offside mirror

That's typical of a low-speed drop doing U turn practice for a naked. If you're unlucky, you could break the clocks surround too. And as he's unlikely to have the spares in his pocket, a minor spill that the instructor would normally patch up in seconds (I always had spare levers, a mirror and yellow tape for a bodge job on an indicator lens) will bring training to a halt - that could result in lost test fees, course cancellation / lost deposit...

And if he doesn't like the dents and a few scratches, add on:

exhaust
tank

And fairings take the bill to a whole new level.

Alternatively cost up clock protectors, engine protectors and rear crash bars... if you can source them. They're not made for every bike.

Re: best DAS bike?

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:18 am
by The Spin Doctor
Bigjawa wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:51 am
The old CZ125s always felt bug as they actually were a downsized bigger bike, so did the 125 MZs.
One stroke of luck in my life - I never had to ride either (though I did ride the CZ250 twin and the MZ250ETZ :)

Re: best DAS bike?

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:20 am
by Horse
The Spin Doctor wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:18 am
Bigjawa wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 12:51 am
The old CZ125s always felt bug as they actually were a downsized bigger bike, so did the 125 MZs.
One stroke of luck in my life - I never had to ride either (though I did ride the CZ250 twin and the MZ250ETZ :)
A GF had an MZ125. It was awful. But when my Guzzi broke down it was our only transport ...

Re: best DAS bike?

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:23 am
by The Spin Doctor
Horse wrote: Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:20 am A GF had an MZ125. It was awful. But when my Guzzi broke down it was our only transport ...
:shock: