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Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 6:06 pm
by Yorick
Bigjawa wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 4:50 pm
Yorick wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:09 pm
ChrisW wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:38 pm Ironically trials bikes are the one type I can consistently expect to be able to get both feet down on.
I can get my feet on the ground safely on my GasGas.
Maybe helped by my 14 stones of Yorkshire goodness :obscene-birdiedoublered:
And the pies.

Don't forget the pies
A balanced diet is a pie in each hand.

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:24 pm
by Noggin
Horse wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:45 pm
Noggin wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:43 am
I always knew this was an issue for me (thought I had long legs till I started riding a bike!) but then I borrowed a mates ZX12r for a quick trip to Bristol to pick up a part for my ZZR600 and so so nearly dropped it at some lights in Bristol where the camber on the left side went down a lot more than I expected and it was also a downhill slope!!

From that day I never put my left foot down for a stop on a road I didn't know very Very well! I always put my right foot down and got pretty good at doing hill starts off the front brake because often I couldn't do the 'shuffle' and swap feet as most do!

Over here I've not noticed a major camber at most places I stop, but now I do tend to put my left foot down cos 'usually' I'd expect the camber to go to the right!
Use a very brief countersteer and release just as you nip in the clutch to get the bike leaning and that foot down.

Many riders just wobble to halt, with the bike leaning whichever way the last wobble went. Or wave a leg around and use that weight to make fall over / lean.
No idea exactly what I do (well did!) but I rarely wobbled 🤣🤣. And definitely chose which side I would lean!! Always the other side to the lower bit of the camber 😇😇

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 3:26 pm
by Ditchfinder
The new promo video is out so it looks like it will feature at EICMA next month

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 3:35 pm
by Ditchfinder
And these look production ready now

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 5:35 pm
by Count Steer
Looks ok that. I think £5k has been mentioned but the figure I found was €5k.

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 5:44 pm
by MyLittleStudPony
I hate to be a miserable old bastard but I'd rather spend the 5k on a second hand Honda.

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 5:55 pm
by Count Steer
Yeah, well, I'd probably have a Suzuki DR-Z but the little thing up there's OK.

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 6:55 pm
by Horse
Noggin wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:24 pm
Horse wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:45 pm]
Use a very brief countersteer and release just as you nip in the clutch to get the bike leaning and that foot down.

Many riders just wobble to halt, with the bike leaning whichever way the last wobble went. Or wave a leg around and use that weight to make fall over / lean.
No idea exactly what I do (well did!) but I rarely wobbled 🤣🤣.
Give it a try :)

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 7:00 pm
by Noggin
Horse wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 6:55 pm
Noggin wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:24 pm
Horse wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 5:45 pm]
Use a very brief countersteer and release just as you nip in the clutch to get the bike leaning and that foot down.

Many riders just wobble to halt, with the bike leaning whichever way the last wobble went. Or wave a leg around and use that weight to make fall over / lean.
No idea exactly what I do (well did!) but I rarely wobbled 🤣🤣.
Give it a try :)
When I have use of a bike again, I will ! Got to try and decide what to try and then what to buy vs what I can afford to buy, in the spring !!

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 7:06 pm
by Horse
Noggin wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 7:00 pm
Horse wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 6:55 pm
Noggin wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 9:24 pm

No idea exactly what I do (well did!) but I rarely wobbled 🤣🤣.
Give it a try :)
When I have use of a bike again, I will ! Got to try and decide what to try and then what to buy vs what I can afford to buy, in the spring !!
Ah, didn't know you were bikeless :(

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2025 7:11 pm
by Noggin
Horse wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 7:06 pm
Noggin wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 7:00 pm
Horse wrote: Fri Oct 10, 2025 6:55 pm

Give it a try :)
When I have use of a bike again, I will ! Got to try and decide what to try and then what to buy vs what I can afford to buy, in the spring !!
Ah, didn't know you were bikeless :(
Borrowed a mates last year but this year too much was going on to try and make time for testing and my mate's new knee has healed so he didn't want to lend anymore !! :lol: :lol:

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 9:47 pm
by Bigjawa
Cousin Jack wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:17 pm
Count Steer wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:12 pm
Ditchfinder wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 5:55 pm Can't see them selling at 5k, seat height is still ridiculous for most beginner off roaders who are sub 5'9
I just don't get this sub 5' 9" thing. You expect to get your feet planted on the ground on an "off-roader'? Err, hello, earth calling.....
Err hello, you don't think adventure bikes go off road do you? It is all about the 'look'.
Mine does?

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2025 10:05 pm
by Count Steer
Bigjawa wrote: Wed Oct 22, 2025 9:47 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:17 pm
Count Steer wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 6:12 pm

I just don't get this sub 5' 9" thing. You expect to get your feet planted on the ground on an "off-roader'? Err, hello, earth calling.....
Err hello, you don't think adventure bikes go off road do you? It is all about the 'look'.
Mine does?
Mine did too. :thumbup:

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 4:54 am
by Ditchfinder
And the last few weeks mine has too and it's got me thinking like Yorick, they're just too damn heavy for what they need to do. A 30 yr old Honda XR250 puts out the same power as a Himalayan 411 and weighs 70kg less with more travel and ground clearance.

The only thing it lacks is a screen and some racks.

Quite why a crf300/voge300/Rieju307 needs to be 170kg god only knows. It can't be due to A2 as a390 Duke is more powerful and lighter.

Yes emissions and ABS but changing my exhaust to a decat only saved 4kg and abs removal would only be 2kg more...

The weight just sucks out the fun off road

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:48 am
by Dodgy69
The Fantic Caballero weighs 150kg. They seem to keep it down. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 9:12 am
by Supermofo
Ditchfinder wrote: Thu Oct 23, 2025 4:54 am Quite why a crf300/voge300/Rieju307 needs to be 170kg god only knows. It can't be due to A2 as a390 Duke is more powerful and lighter.
A full road going 690 Duke weighs less than 170kg, think they are 160 wet, with ABS and a full dustbin sized cat underneath, plus TC etc. I have no idea how modern bikes are so heavy.

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 9:19 am
by Yorick
My fully road legal GasGas EC300 weighs 107 kgs.
Where does all the extra weight come from?

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 9:20 am
by KungFooBob
Do any of these bikes actually weigh any of these manufacturers numbers?

Has anyone actually put a ready to ride 690 on some scales?

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 9:34 am
by Yorick
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Oct 23, 2025 9:20 am Do any of these bikes actually weigh any of these manufacturers numbers?

Has anyone actually put a ready to ride 690 on some scales?
It won't fit in our bathroom :(

Re: Rieju Aventura 307

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2025 9:35 am
by Pirahna
The nearest thing I can think of to an XR250R is something like a KTM250EXC or similar. If you move along the KTM range to something like the 690 Enduro R, then it's around 170kg fully fuelled.

There's a couple of people have done around the World trips on a KTM500EXC. You're not thrashing the nuts off it in a race which extends the service intervals. Pop on a high volume clutch cover for extra oil capacity which extends the oil change interval even more and you're good to go. About 110kg on the road.