Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

[Noggin]

Presumably they had a bunch of those side panels left over from Bugatti.

Now THAT I would love!! LOL LOL

[Taipan]

I still think we'll see PAYG city EVs, like on the Boris Bike schemes. Makes more sense than ownership in big cities.

[slowsider]

I still think we'll see PAYG city EVs, like on the Boris Bike schemes. Makes more sense than ownership in big cities.

Public transport makes even more sense. Germany is concluding a 3 month trial of €9 ticket for a month of it.

[Taipan]

I still think we'll see PAYG city EVs, like on the Boris Bike schemes. Makes more sense than ownership in big cities.

Public transport makes even more sense. Germany is concluding a 3 month trial of €9 ticket for a month of it.

Most of my colleagues that live in London don't have cars. They favour public transport and of course in many boroughs parking permits come into play and some are damn expensive unless you have an EV. But now an increasing number of bus routes are being axed the demand for a car will rise again and the PAYG option would work I reckon, the downside being ring fencing location areas and redistribution of parked cars. I still think there's a solution in there somewhere?

I have no figures for this, but it does seem a lot of yoof aren't anywhere as interested in driving like my generation was and a lot of that seems to be for environmental reasons? If that is right, then occasional access to vehicles such as PAYG ones does seem the way forward?

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I still think we'll see PAYG city EVs, like on the Boris Bike schemes. Makes more sense than ownership in big cities.

Public transport makes even more sense. Germany is concluding a 3 month trial of €9 ticket for a month of it.

Most of my colleagues that live in London don't have cars. They favour public transport and of course in many boroughs parking permits come into play and some are damn expensive unless you have an EV. But now an increasing number of bus routes are being axed the demand for a car will rise again and the PAYG option would work I reckon, the downside being ring fencing location areas and redistribution of parked cars. I still think there's a solution in there somewhere?

I have no figures for this, but it does seem a lot of yoof aren't anywhere as interested in driving like my generation was and a lot of that seems to be for environmental reasons? If that is right, then occasional access to vehicles such as PAYG ones does seem the way forward?

Couldn't the cor blimey Cockneys just work from home, they don't make anything physical so don't need to be at a place of work, this might not be too great for sandwich shops and the other jobs that illegal immigrants do, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

[Mr. Dazzle]

My toaster was made in London.

[Horse]

I still think we'll see PAYG city EVs, like on the Boris Bike schemes. Makes more sense than ownership in big cities.

Public transport makes even more sense. Germany is concluding a 3 month trial of €9 ticket for a month of it.

TfL have almost gone bankrupt twice in the last couple of years.

A settlement which will support almost £3.6 billion worth of projects and secure the long-term future of London’s transport network has today (30 August 2022) been agreed with TfL.

The settlement, which includes just under £1.2 billion of upfront funding and brings government’s total funding to over £6 billion, matches the Mayor’s own pre-pandemic spending plans. It will ensure the network is not only protected against potential lost revenue caused by uncertainty of post-pandemic demand but will also enable the delivery of a number of projects set to revolutionise travel across London.

https://www.saferhighways.co.uk/post/tr ... government


Someone better ask Truss and Sunak what they'll do.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

My toaster was made in London.

I thought your wife was from Louth?

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I still think we'll see PAYG city EVs, like on the Boris Bike schemes. Makes more sense than ownership in big cities.

Public transport makes even more sense. Germany is concluding a 3 month trial of €9 ticket for a month of it.

TfL have almost gone bankrupt twice in the last couple of years.

A settlement which will support almost £3.6 billion worth of projects and secure the long-term future of London’s transport network has today (30 August 2022) been agreed with TfL.

The settlement, which includes just under £1.2 billion of upfront funding and brings government’s total funding to over £6 billion, matches the Mayor’s own pre-pandemic spending plans. It will ensure the network is not only protected against potential lost revenue caused by uncertainty of post-pandemic demand but will also enable the delivery of a number of projects set to revolutionise travel across London.

https://www.saferhighways.co.uk/post/tr ... government


Someone better ask Truss and Sunak what they'll do.

Hopefully leave them to get on with it, why should the rest of the UK subsidise London's public transport, surely it would make more sense if the ticket price reflected what it costs to run?

[slowsider]

Public transport makes even more sense. Germany is concluding a 3 month trial of €9 ticket for a month of it.

TfL have almost gone bankrupt twice in the last couple of years.

A settlement which will support almost £3.6 billion worth of projects and secure the long-term future of London’s transport network has today (30 August 2022) been agreed with TfL.

The settlement, which includes just under £1.2 billion of upfront funding and brings government’s total funding to over £6 billion, matches the Mayor’s own pre-pandemic spending plans. It will ensure the network is not only protected against potential lost revenue caused by uncertainty of post-pandemic demand but will also enable the delivery of a number of projects set to revolutionise travel across London.

https://www.saferhighways.co.uk/post/tr ... government


Someone better ask Truss and Sunak what they'll do.

Hopefully leave them to get on with it, why should the rest of the UK subsidise London's public transport, surely it would make more sense if the ticket price reflected what it costs to run?

That might be logical if driving was charged in a similar way... Asian Boss's 'polluter pays' argument.
But you can change behaviours, reduce congestion, and cut emissions by incentivising the switch.
The pilot in Germany was a national one and saved an estimated 1.8m tonnes of CO2 emissions.

[Count Steer]

My toaster was made in London.

Wossat then? Dualit toasters used to be somewhere on the 'knocked 'em dead in' the Old Kent Road but they moved production to West Sussex. There's probably a lot still working that were made on the OKR...is your perhaps vintage*?

* not that you'd know, they don't seemed to have changed since electricity got invented. I love the clockwork timer.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Yeah old school Dualit I got second hand...it has a sticker on bottom with a London address, don't recall exactly where.

[Horse]

Yeah old school Dualit I got second hand...it has a sticker on bottom with a London address, don't recall exactly where.

Is it runes, or Ogham?

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

That might be logical if driving was charged in a similar way... Asian Boss's 'polluter pays' argument.
But you can change behaviours, reduce congestion, and cut emissions by incentivising the switch.
The pilot in Germany was a national one and saved an estimated 1.8m tonnes of CO2 emissions.

The trouble is that there will always be people who need to go where public transport doesn't - IMO they should get travel at the same rate per mile as those that can use subsidised public transport.

[Count Steer]

Yeah old school Dualit I got second hand...it has a sticker on bottom with a London address, don't recall exactly where.

Penarth Street, just off the OKR. The works is now 'a range of creative spaces' for the community and called 'The Toaster Factory'* apparently.

* should be making Cylons.

[Pirahna]

There's a place called the Toaster House in Pie Town, New Mexico. It's on the Great Divide trail and you can stay there. It's easy to find, the place is covered in knackered toasters.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Yeah old school Dualit I got second hand...it has a sticker on bottom with a London address, don't recall exactly where.

Penarth Street, just off the OKR.

Number 16, according to the label.

Fax 0171 639 0074 if you fancy dropping 'em a line.

[Horse]

https://www-teslarati-com.cdn.ampprojec ... -fire/amp/

[slowsider]

https://www-teslarati-com.cdn.ampprojec ... -fire/amp/

Vested interests on both sides:

"Johnna is a Tesla shareholder and supports its mission. "

[cheb]

ICE vehicles aren't immune to fake fires either:

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm ... story.html