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Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:08 pm
by Deadpool2
Great looking bike, if you squint really hard and just look at the wheels, could almost be a KTM lol
being thick, what does the slipper clutch allow one to do, that you cant on a normal clutch - basically change down and not worry about locking the rear?
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:22 pm
by Yorick
Jeez, it needs a wash.
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:59 pm
by Couchy
I’m not the lightest or slowest bloke and the standard suspension is good enough to win inters with me on it. Yes it’s better once improved but it’s not dangerous.
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:21 pm
by Skub
Couchy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:59 pm
I’m not the lightest or slowest bloke and the standard suspension is good enough to win inters with me on it. Yes it’s better once improved but it’s not dangerous.
Perhaps because you are quicker than the average rider,you are able to ride past any suspension discrepancies,whereas those a little further down the ladder may need all the help they can get?
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:57 pm
by Couchy
Skub wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:21 pm
Couchy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:59 pm
I’m not the lightest or slowest bloke and the standard suspension is good enough to win inters with me on it. Yes it’s better once improved but it’s not dangerous.
Perhaps because you are quicker than the average rider,you are able to ride past any suspension discrepancies,whereas those a little further down the ladder may need all the help they can get?
Probably some truth in it, but I feel a lot of people want a bike that’s doesn’t move ever and if it does move they look for reasons why other than that’s how bikes are they move around the road. Other people then buy into this and all of a sudden a bike like the MT is seen as bad. A few years on a 350ypvs on cross plys would help

There’s also how folk ride. Smooth riding makes everything easier, even simple things like blipping down the gears is smoother than a slipper clutch and upsets the bike less. But rather than ride smoothly and not upset the bikes more budget suspension they go straight for an upgrade, of course nothing wrong with spending we all do it but best to be honest about why

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:59 pm
by weeksy
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:06 pm
by Demannu
EVERY bike can improve its suspension, from a C90 to Quatararo's M1.
From something as simple to changing the springs to suit your weight (xsr9 fr'instance) to full Monty set ups with hi/lo speed adjustments.
It's also one of the areas of greatest areas of compromise as the manufacturer has no idea how you ride, how heavy you are, last of the late breakers etc.
There's a good reason Maxton, ktech, ohlins, WP, Wilburs and many other specialists earn good dollar sorting out suspension.
It has been my experience however that Yamaha do seem to get some strange set ups on their ujm bikes for some reason!
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:07 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Couchy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:57 pm
Skub wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:21 pm
Couchy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:59 pm
I’m not the lightest or slowest bloke and the standard suspension is good enough to win inters with me on it. Yes it’s better once improved but it’s not dangerous.
Perhaps because you are quicker than the average rider,you are able to ride past any suspension discrepancies,whereas those a little further down the ladder may need all the help they can get?
Probably some truth in it, but I feel a lot of people want a bike that’s doesn’t move ever and if it does move they look for reasons why other than that’s how bikes are they move around the road. Other people then buy into this and all of a sudden a bike like the MT is seen as bad. A few years on a 350ypvs on cross plys would help

There’s also how folk ride. Smooth riding makes everything easier, even simple things like blipping down the gears is smoother than a slipper clutch and upsets the bike less. But rather than ride smoothly and not upset the bikes more budget suspension they go straight for an upgrade, of course nothing wrong with spending we all do it but best to be honest about why
The above is correct, especially the YPVS bit, I ride round on a 30 odd year old bike with basic damper rod forks, it hasn't tried to kill me yet, in 1985 it was the best handling big bike you could buy, and won a load of races on those basic forks.
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:11 pm
by Skub
Couchy wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:57 pm
Probably some truth in it, but I feel a lot of people want a bike that’s doesn’t move ever and if it does move they look for reasons why other than that’s how bikes are they move around the road. Other people then buy into this and all of a sudden a bike like the MT is seen as bad. A few years on a 350ypvs on cross plys would help

There’s also how folk ride. Smooth riding makes everything easier, even simple things like blipping down the gears is smoother than a slipper clutch and upsets the bike less. But rather than ride smoothly and not upset the bikes more budget suspension they go straight for an upgrade, of course nothing wrong with spending we all do it but best to be honest about why
I started riding in the 70s when bikes knew how to wobble and weave,nevertheless and up to a point they could get the job done. In later years with a ZX9R I made the mistake of convincing myself I needed a stiff suspension setup,without understanding I would lose grip and a bit of movement is a very useful indicator! The bike wasn't long in schooling me and these days my favourite word is compliancy.

Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:12 pm
by Demannu

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Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:14 pm
by Couchy
Demannu wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:06 pm
EVERY bike can improve its suspension, from a C90 to Quatararo's M1.
From something as simple to changing the springs to suit your weight (xsr9 fr'instance) to full Monty set ups with hi/lo speed adjustments.
It's also one of the areas of greatest areas of compromise as the manufacturer has no idea how you ride, how heavy you are, last of the late breakers etc.
There's a good reason Maxton, ktech, ohlins, WP, Wilburs and many other specialists earn good dollar sorting out suspension.
It has been my experience however that Yamaha do seem to get some strange set ups on their ujm bikes for some reason!
Totally agree but it’s the folk that say something like the MT07 is rubbish or dangerous that have it wrong. It’s not as good as aftermarket or with the correct springs but it is good enough to use and enjoy
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:36 pm
by Supermofo
Things like my Fazer 6 and my Z750 used to bounce around all over the shop, I just got used to using the bounce to help me place the bike where I wanted it

I'm sure both would have been better with after market suspension but they were fine without.
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:42 pm
by weeksy
Demannu wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:12 pm
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Mtfu
LOL it's 10deg and a brand new tyre, i'm not at Donington. There's no roads locally where that's even an option i'm afraid.
In this weather with the road surfaces you should be impressed I've turned it on!
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:01 pm
by Taipan
Looks sooooo much better! Is that a 160 rear tyre?
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:12 pm
by KungFooBob
How easy is it to junk those USA stylee front fork reflectors?
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:16 pm
by Mr Moofo
Has he sold it yet?
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:26 pm
by weeksy
KungFooBob wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:12 pm
How easy is it to junk those USA stylee front fork reflectors?
Fairly. They sit between caliper bolt and caliper. It's about 2 mins
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:26 pm
by weeksy
Taipan wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:01 pm
Looks sooooo much better! Is that a 160 rear tyre?
180 rear mate.
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:15 pm
by matt
Looks great, a little dark fly screen would finish it off though imo.
Re: INCOMING, Happy 50th to me.... Yeah, it's a Yamaha... it's the easy option.
Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:25 pm
by weeksy
matt wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:15 pm
Looks great, a little dark fly screen would finish it off though imo.
In only arrived Thursday. Give me a chance. I think I've done a fair bit.
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