Depression

[Yorick]

Some days are good and some days are not so good. A mate told me the other day.

There is no such thing as a bad day...........there are good days and better days. It sort of works for me currently

When I'm down I think I could be a bit poorly here or a bit poorly in Bradford.

[weeksy]

Feeling extremely deflated this morning. Think the news again hitting us with the recession fears. Actually, not really fears any longer, it's happening.

Don't watch, read or listen to the news. It won't change anything.

Either way you'll have more or less money each money, but you can't change, affect or influence it

[Taipan]

I've gone further than that. My Step Father-in-Law is retired and has too much time on his hands and watches the news far too much because of it. So I've banned him from talking about current affairs as he has no conversation other than voicing his worries about nuclear wars, financial collapse and all manner of dramatic, impending doom he's being fed by the news agencies.

It drives the wife and I up the wall. Visiting him became all about how quick could we get away again! According to him, I'm just burying my head in the sand, but I told him it's still brighter down there than listening to him banging on! So we've agreed to drop the news and politics, but he still cant help slipping in a quick, "The worlds gone mad"!

I get in around 6 each night and used to watch an hour of local and international news. I don't anymore and that black cloud has floated away.

[Greenman]

Feeling extremely deflated this morning. Think the news again hitting us with the recession fears. Actually, not really fears any longer, it's happening.

Don't watch, read or listen to the news. It won't change anything.

Either way you'll have more or less money each money, but you can't change, affect or influence it

Watch the News your bound to lose!

[Couchy]

Feeling extremely deflated this morning. Think the news again hitting us with the recession fears. Actually, not really fears any longer, it's happening.

Don't watch, read or listen to the news. It won't change anything.

Either way you'll have more or less money each money, but you can't change, affect or influence it

100% this, nothing you can do about the doom and gloom being reported so just don’t bother, do something you enjoy instead even if it’s sitting doing nothing it’s all preferable to the news. I’ve stopped in the last month or two and instead I put music or the radio on when I get home. The only change I can make to what’s happening is once every 4 years or so and that’s what I’ll do. The rest of it I can’t alter.

[Greenman]

"The worlds gone mad"!

It has though tbh...

My parents are similar. Their only info comes from what they see on the news or what is happening on eastenders, it's sad really. Having a convo with them is tricky when it comes to politics so we have a pact that we don't talk about politics - much!...

When your only news comes from our scheming media, then your brain is guaranteed to get fried to a pulp!

[Deadpool2]

I can't offer any advice, being on the knife edge myself.

Perversely, while its somewhat harder working from home (social exclusion), its also easier in some ways as I can grab a quick nap in the day (I have trouble sleeping).

Work gets me up in the morning but otherwise I just CBA. Literally am on the couch all weekend, can't be bothered going out and having both my shoulders being frozen and a bad back, leaves me in constant pain.

I know why I struggle, grief, loss etc but there is no end in sight. There is nothing I can do, really nothing except accept, and no matter what I do its very difficult.



Good luck

[Wscad]

Made the mistake of watching question time again last night. Switched off half way through. I’m going to make a point of not watching it again. Been hacked off all day today

[Yorick]

I can't offer any advice, being on the knife edge myself.

Perversely, while its somewhat harder working from home (social exclusion), its also easier in some ways as I can grab a quick nap in the day (I have trouble sleeping).

Work gets me up in the morning but otherwise I just CBA. Literally am on the couch all weekend, can't be bothered going out and having both my shoulders being frozen and a bad back, leaves me in constant pain.

I know why I struggle, grief, loss etc but there is no end in sight. There is nothing I can do, really nothing except accept, and no matter what I do its very difficult.



Good luck

About half of that applies to me.
Thankfully I don't have the work bit to contend with. When I retired I'd just come out of a dark period so perfect timing.

I think I met you when you came to a party in Thame?

[Yorick]

Made the mistake of watching question time again last night. Switched off half way through. I’m going to make a point of not watching it again. Been hacked off all day today

I follow the UK news on BBC website. But only open the links I find interesting.

[Deadpool2]

I can't offer any advice, being on the knife edge myself.

Perversely, while its somewhat harder working from home (social exclusion), its also easier in some ways as I can grab a quick nap in the day (I have trouble sleeping).

Work gets me up in the morning but otherwise I just CBA. Literally am on the couch all weekend, can't be bothered going out and having both my shoulders being frozen and a bad back, leaves me in constant pain.

I know why I struggle, grief, loss etc but there is no end in sight. There is nothing I can do, really nothing except accept, and no matter what I do its very difficult.



Good luck

About half of that applies to me.
Thankfully I don't have the work bit to contend with. When I retired I'd just come out of a dark period so perfect timing.

I think I met you when you came to a party in Thame?

We did, I had a blue 954 someone tried for size lol

[Greenman]

I can't offer any advice, being on the knife edge myself.

Perversely, while its somewhat harder working from home (social exclusion), its also easier in some ways as I can grab a quick nap in the day (I have trouble sleeping).

Work gets me up in the morning but otherwise I just CBA. Literally am on the couch all weekend, can't be bothered going out and having both my shoulders being frozen and a bad back, leaves me in constant pain.

I know why I struggle, grief, loss etc but there is no end in sight. There is nothing I can do, really nothing except accept, and no matter what I do its very difficult.



Good luck

That very post there, up there... is positivity and goodness in dire adversity and i have all respect for you!

[Wscad]

There is also the stress problem. Wife is guardian for her cousins 16 year old daughter. She is at Harrogate ladies college at 45 thousand pounds a year.

It’s half term now , so she’s at our gaff, her bedroom blinds are down all day and she never opens the windows.

She will never start a conversation , she is voice activated .

Apart from that. .........wscad house is doing ok

I hope everyone out there are doing ok

live long and prosper

[tricol]

Work gets me up in the morning but otherwise I just CBA

Yip, been like that mostly for a long time now. Even moreso recently in a job that is tough to do because we can't sell much (well known supply issues).

I got out on all my bikes this weekend, road bike on Saturday with the new local club and met some new people, then a quick blast on the MTB and the Trident on Sunday. Still felt down and out come the end of Sunday. But, this is how it has been for 15+ years. I can get myself out to do the things I know make me happy, but the feeling is short lived and quickly gets replaced afterwards.

[Docca]

I remember working on a ward for ‘treatment resistant affective disorders’ - long time ago, but people with depression/mania etc that didn’t respond to treatment ( read: medicine).

Things have moved on a pace since those days and now psychology is more mainstream, and has benefitted a great many people.

IME chronic anxiety is more treatable with better outcomes than chronic depression. The former can exploit more treatment modalities that are focussed on behaviour and response, the latter? Well, ultimately for some it’s about normalising how you are.

That’s not to say that science won’t catch up, but for now there remain as many people who are resistant to treatment for depression as there ever has been. Well, more now due to scaling access and population size- but you get what I mean.

Whilst it might be therapeutic to diarise every time you’ve felt down, there is also a trap to fall in to whereby you become defined by the very thing you’re trying to escape. Typecast in some miserable play with no 3rd act.

[Wscad]

What is the difference between anxiety and depression? My take on it is.......

Anxiety = worry about stuff

Depression = effed off about everything

What’s the difference?

[weeksy]

What is the difference between anxiety and depression? My take on it is.......

Anxiety = worry about stuff

Depression = effed off about everything

What’s the difference?

I expect anxiety isn't constant, but triggered.

With depression I think it'd be more a continuous thing

[Wscad]

[Tigs]

I didn't read the whole thread (so sorry if it has already been said) .. but make sure you are taking Vit D - it really is a game changer in terms of mood - and wellbeing (particularly if feeling low hits about this time of year when it is dark and dingy)

Personally I think anxiety is often naturally fleeting, but people over think and get stuck in the moment (if you think about how your body feels when you are anxious - or excited they are pretty similar - but one is 'bad' and one is 'good' .. you can 'reframe' those feelings that is what CBT tries to do).

For me a the key to depression is reaching out and lifting yourself out of it - but it is hard to catch and once you fall down the rabbit hole clawing your way out - is tough

OP I hope your feeling better or still talking

[Yorick]

What is the difference between anxiety and depression? My take on it is.......

Anxiety = worry about stuff

Depression = effed off about everything

What’s the difference?

My expensive specialist said there's a triangle.
One point stress.
Next depression.
Next anxiety.

They are separate but overlap a bit.

But no doubt the RTTL mental health expert will override my opinion.