I am convinced - with zero scientific proof - that moving shoulder protectors in a loose fitting jacket are why my shoulder break was so bad.Hot_Air wrote: ↑Sun May 16, 2021 3:22 pm I agree with @Horse about the importance of having protectors that can’t move in a crash. Often, I’ve tried on textiles that feel comfy but the elbow or knee armour can rotate.
Also, BMW isn’t alone in having a top-end Gore-Tex jacket without insulation. Astars and Klim sometimes do the same. I think it’s a combination of cost saving (the jackets are already expensive enough) and customers already having hi-tech mid-layers. The BMW Ride Quilted Jacket that @Horse suggested, for example, is considerably better than any zip-in liner.
Zero proof, but I will guarantee that the plastic 'armour' moved!! (And I would normally have taken them out, no idea why I didn't on that jacket )