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[Dodgy69]

Why do riders have to repeat their cbt every 2 years.? It's beggars belief why >47 bhp licenses aren't easier to get. Traffic ain't gonna get less.

[Noggin]

Why do riders have to repeat their cbt every 2 years.? It's beggars belief why >47 bhp licenses aren't easier to get. Traffic ain't gonna get less.

Isn't it to prevent people riding on L plates forever? (Not sure why it's that big a problem, but ??)

[Horse]

https://mcia.co.uk/posts/industry-rider ... w-barriers

[NB I don't agree with all of this, but here it is as an FYI]

The joint submission therefore also calls for wider reform, including:

An incentivised progression pathway from CBT through to full licence acquisition - A visible, rewarding route encourages learners to move on from temporary status, builds rider confidence and skills, and signals that motorcycling is a legitimate, progressive mode of transport, not simply a leisure pursuit.

A review of the current two-part motorcycle testing structure, with a return to a single-event full test - Simplifying the test regime would remove needless friction, restore public faith in the licensing process and help more riders complete their training and ride safely on the road.

Consideration of electric L‑Category vehicles within licensing regulations proportionate to their performance - Recognising the range of electric vehicles ensures regulation is fair and credible, supporting innovation and adoption while avoiding blanket rules that could stifle zero emission solutions.

Regulated access pathways for low-speed electric mobility vehicles – which would tackle the urgent problem of illegal and unsafe riding among young people by providing legal and attractive entry routes for younger and new riders, steering them into compliant options, reducing the uptake of unsafe illegal alternatives, and help shape safer, more sustainable travel habits from the start.

Include the full L Category sector, including L6 and L7 vehicles – some of the greatest future gains in emissions reduction, modal shift and miles-travelled efficiency will come from across the sector. Focusing only on the lower and middle segments risks missing opportunities tied to emerging urban mobility trends and the evolving shape of urban and sub-urban environments, particularly for last mile delivery operations.

[Horse]

One for anyone who intends to either feet-doen paddle around, or three-point turn.

[Count Steer]

One for anyone who intends to either feet-doen paddle around, or three-point turn.

And some people think it's not cool to be able to do that.

[Nordboy]

One for anyone who intends to either feet-doen paddle around, or three-point turn.

And some people think it's not cool to be able to do that.

We used to use a camber far less than that, and it caused no end of difficulties for some. Admittedly, it was a camber that dropped both sides of the centre. They're making that look pretty easy, it's a bit more difficult than it looks.

I'd be happy to go find somewhere much easier to turn than that

[Count Steer]

One for anyone who intends to either feet-doen paddle around, or three-point turn.

And some people think it's not cool to be able to do that.

We used to use a camber far less than that, and it caused no end of difficulties for some. Admittedly, it was a camber that dropped both sides of the centre. They're making that look pretty easy, it's a bit more difficult than it looks.

I'd be happy to go find somewhere much easier to turn than that

Absolutely! The 'Yeah, whatevs, turn here? OK' look of them doing it does make it look easy. That's why I think it's a cool skill. (Cooler and more use than wheelies - unless you can stand it on the back wheel and turn 180º ).

I'd find somewhere else to turn too.

[MrLongbeard]

One for anyone who intends to either feet-doen paddle around, or three-point turn.

I'd have used my superior observational skills and turned around at the top, or ridden down to the bottom, a feet up U-turn isn't necessary.

[Horse]

Hmmm this post got lost ...

Sometimes, however good your planning, you may arrive at somewhere and just have to get on with it.

Imagine having to turn uphill here (Vale Street, from Park Street, in Bristol):

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[Nordboy]

You only have to watch the videos of the people trying to go around the bends of the Stelvio to see how often they get it wrong. They often pop up on my Insta gram for me to have a chuckle. The riders get really pissed off with themselves lol

[Horse]

UK training is really good on slowly wobbling around cones, and higher speeds on bends - but rubbish on the gap between the two.

[Dodgy69]

Some people only want a > 125, they have ridden their little bike for years and still have to do the cbt repeater. It's absolute bollox.

[Horse]

Some people only want a > 125, they have ridden their little bike for years and still have to do the cbt repeater. It's absolute bollox.

From how most of the local food delivery riders demonstrate their skills, even that one day basic stuff isn't sinking in.

eg Riding around roundabouts, and along straights at 30mph, with one or both feet skimming the road.

And, if they want to carry on riding a small bike (guessing you actually meant that?), what's wrong with them proving a level of skill by passing the tests?

[Noggin]

**** - unless you can stand it on the back wheel and turn 180º ****

This is my next thing to learn/practice

Hmmm this post got lost ...

Sometimes, however good your planning, you may arrive at somewhere and just have to get on with it.

Imagine having to turn uphill here (Vale Street, from Park Street, in Bristol):

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Looks like a lot of the hairpins on the smaller roads up to the cols (passes) here

TBF, am pretty sure I've taken that turn in Bristol

[Nordboy]

Some people only want a > 125, they have ridden their little bike for years and still have to do the cbt repeater. It's absolute bollox.

From how most of the local food delivery riders demonstrate their skills, even that one day basic stuff isn't sinking in.

eg Riding around roundabouts, and along straights at 30mph, with one or both feet skimming the road.

And, if they want to carry on riding a small bike (guessing you actually meant that?), what's wrong with them proving a level of skill by passing the tests?

I think the law needs changing and you shouldn't be allowed to ride for business purposes on a CBT, you should have to pass a full test. As they can renew every two years there's no requirement for them to pass a test. It's crazy imo.