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Yay I scored a 42mmol/mol on my blood sugars last week :silent: so have started the NHS (farmed out) pre-diabetic digital program today.

The app (Liva) is very very rudimentary, won't link to ergdata, samsung health or myfitnesspal app, everything has to be input manually but we'll see how we go over the next 6 months.

Now if you'll excuse me I've got to go and ditch a load of ice cream in the bin :thumbdown:
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ouch.... good luck sir.
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I was there about 3 and a bit years ago and it scared the shit out of me.
I looked closely at diet and worked out how much sugar I was taking in and how much processed food we as a family were eating. During the working day I don't (usually) eat anything that comes out of a wrapper. Dinner is lettuce chicken and boiled egg, snacks are banana apples and oranges, evening meals tend to be variations on meat and two veg.

The worst bit was the first three days when my body was craving sugar, it was worse than giving up smoking but went away a lot quicker.
The diet sounds dull, and it is, but my last test was 38 and I've got a lot more energy in the afternoons than I have done for years.
As weeksy says, good luck 🤞
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Yeah, mine is going to be tough.
Lunch's for the week are 5 chicken salads, 1 KFC wrap and 1 pot noodle.
Dinners, aside from a pizza once a week there's not a lot to cut back on, I've been low carb for yonks so no potatoes, chips or rice to cull
Unhealthy snacks need knocking on the head, but I already get through a bag of oranges and 2 hands (?) of celery.

My big one is going to be booze, so I'll use the NHS suggested 14 units for the week as a target, down from 25 - 30.
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MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:35 pm Yay I scored a 42mmol/mol on my blood sugars last week :silent: so have started the NHS (farmed out) pre-diabetic digital program today.

The app (Liva) is very very rudimentary, won't link to ergdata, samsung health or myfitnesspal app, everything has to be input manually but we'll see how we go over the next 6 months.

Now if you'll excuse me I've got to go and ditch a load of ice cream in the bin :thumbdown:
Fuck me, it's not that difficult.
(I am probably just diabetic at the moment but the local NHS wing aren't that concerned)

1) Lose some weight - above 10% great but even just 5% will help
2) Do some exercise
3) Stop eating so much shit
4) Drink a lot less alcohol
You don't need an app for any of that
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MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:35 pm Yay I scored a 42mmol/mol on my blood sugars last week :silent: so have started the NHS (farmed out) pre-diabetic digital program today.

The app (Liva) is very very rudimentary, won't link to ergdata, samsung health or myfitnesspal app, everything has to be input manually but we'll see how we go over the next 6 months.

Now if you'll excuse me I've got to go and ditch a load of ice cream in the bin :thumbdown:
Afternoon, and welcome to a club no one wants to join but comes with a bonus of free prescriptions!

Have you been given a BG machine? Then this might be helpful https://www.diabetes.co.uk/blood-sugar-converter.html

The app looks like one of the many apps that do that stuff. Not sure one is better than the others.

Look up the Dr Micheal Mosely https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b ... ive-longer and similar programs and you can experiment on yourself to see what works. Also look up one meal a day.

As a note diet food contains lots of sugar to improve the teaste so you can go back to eating full fat foods. If you want to chat, gimme a shout.
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No, no BG monitor, I'm guessing they wait until your a full blown diabetic before dishing them out, I might pick one up just to see what's what on a weekly basis.
Thankfully I've never been a fan of 'diet' foods, and my assigned health coach was making positive noises about what I do eat for my main meals, we'll see if she still thinks the same after I've logged everything for a couple of weeks.
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Never got offered BG monitor. I did buy one though!
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Think positively,the news could do you a favour. A lot of stuff we eat and drink is just habit,make a new habit.

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Drinking a lot less alcohol sounds like a challenge. 🍻
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MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:14 pm No, no BG monitor, I'm guessing they wait until your a full blown diabetic before dishing them out, I might pick one up just to see what's what on a weekly basis.
Thankfully I've never been a fan of 'diet' foods, and my assigned health coach was making positive noises about what I do eat for my main meals, we'll see if she still thinks the same after I've logged everything for a couple of weeks.
Well the no meter is a fucker. As all the companies give them away as freebies as they want you to buy the strips. Look up prices of the strips on ebay and see which ones are cheap

What I would say not to do, is look up all the meter makers and then look up the customer services numbers. Then phone and claim that your bag was stolen with your meter in and wondering if you could send you another. It might be seen as a little gauche but tell them that you are an insulin dependant diabetic and test multiple times a day.

They then send you a meter with a prick device, with 10 needles (a needle lasts ages) and 10 test strips. You can see which prick thing suits you best and see which test strips suits you.

Don't worry about big pharma as a they make money on the meters
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Mr Moofo wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:18 pm Never got offered BG monitor. I did buy one though!
I did too but learnt quickly ;) At the mo I have 10 that I pass on to the rspca for people to test their animals.
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Dodgy69 wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 9:01 pm Drinking a lot less alcohol sounds like a challenge. 🍻
Change the alcohol to a lower carb kind. Gin and slim line tonic.
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My alcohol of choice is bourbon, 65 calories per 1oz but sod all sugar already
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MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 11:57 pm My alcohol of choice is bourbon, 65 calories per 1oz but sod all sugar already
It is the mixer that is the killer.
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katana wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:51 am
MrLongbeard wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 11:57 pm My alcohol of choice is bourbon, 65 calories per 1oz but sod all sugar already
It is the mixer that is the killer.
Mixer ????? you do not pollute a good bourbon with a mixer, hell even ice would be blasphemy
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FWIW I don't think reducing carbs (other than sugar) is actually healthy. Others may disagree.

Anyway, good luck with it. You have to find what works for you.
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MyLittleStudPony wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:33 pm FWIW I don't think reducing carbs (other than sugar) is actually healthy. Others may disagree.

Anyway, good luck with it. You have to find what works for you.
I think it's more about working out good/bad versions ?

I recently found out that if you cook pasta and rice then cool and fridge for 24 hours it changes the carb structure (no idea of the correct phraseology - this is loosely 'translated' from what a friend and my SDad told me !!). So you reheat it the next day and it's no longer as carby or as bad (both or one or the other !! )

Excellent case for homemade fried rice to go with a nice chow mein as fried rice is always better with 'over night' rice :angelic-green: :angelic-green:
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Noggin wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:55 pm I recently found out that if you cook pasta and rice then cool and fridge for 24 hours it changes the carb structure (no idea of the correct phraseology - this is loosely 'translated' from what a friend and my SDad told me !!). So you reheat it the next day and it's no longer as carby or as bad (both or one or the other !! )
Apparently it changes them into 'resistant' carbs which the body can't / struggles to break down into glucose, not sure if it still applies if you reheat them food though, not something I've looked into that deeply as I find it easier to just go without
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MrLongbeard wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:12 pm
Noggin wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:55 pm I recently found out that if you cook pasta and rice then cool and fridge for 24 hours it changes the carb structure (no idea of the correct phraseology - this is loosely 'translated' from what a friend and my SDad told me !!). So you reheat it the next day and it's no longer as carby or as bad (both or one or the other !! )
Apparently it changes them into 'resistant' carbs which the body can't / struggles to break down into glucose, not sure if it still applies if you reheat them food though, not something I've looked into that deeply as I find it easier to just go without
The friend does "almost keto" - not 100% strict on keto but aiming that way

She's the one that gave me all the info (that I didn't retain !! ) and apparently it still stays difficult to process when reheated. Apparently that's useful ??

I just laughed cos I love cooked Egg Fried Rice (takeaway style) so when she said all that I said, Awesome, I can do fried rice and it's not bad for me :angelic-green: :obscene-drinkingcheers: :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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