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Julian_Boolean wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:08 pm
derek badger wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:59 pm
rodbargee wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 8:34 pm
You mad bastard! springs to mind but fun.
Snowmobile torque convertor, both cranks linked by chain drive. Mind your bell bottoms...
That photo is 1980s, fwd Ford Escort in the background
Dont think so Julian....
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David wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:28 pm
Julian_Boolean wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:08 pm
derek badger wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:59 pm

Snowmobile torque convertor, both cranks linked by chain drive. Mind your bell bottoms...
That photo is 1980s, fwd Ford Escort in the background
Dont think so Julian....
I think it's Australian. Ford Falcon estate or similar?

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Horse wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:11 pm Is the left header kinked in for ground clearance? As it has separate header & exhaust (I hesitate to say 'silencer') for each cylinder, presumably they don't all need to be the same length? Or is it, that for two strokes, the entire thing has to be a certain length?
On a 2T they all need to be the same length if you want performance. It's less an engine and more of a musical instrument.

Read about Walter Kaaden's work at DKW.
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derek badger wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:32 pm
David wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:28 pm
Julian_Boolean wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:08 pm

That photo is 1980s, fwd Ford Escort in the background
Dont think so Julian....
I think it's Australian. Ford Falcon estate or similar?

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Looks like a US spec Escort

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Esco ... _Wagon.jpg
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cheb wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:41 pm
On a 2T they all need to be the same length if you want performance. It's less an engine and more of a musical instrument.

Read about Walter Kaaden's work at DKW.
They need to be the same frequency I think, not necessarily the same length? They look like they're different diameters.

Ducati made a marketing song and dance about using different bore headers on similar grounds ISTR.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 4:10 pm
cheb wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 3:41 pm
On a 2T they all need to be the same length if you want performance. It's less an engine and more of a musical instrument.

Read about Walter Kaaden's work at DKW.
They need to be the same frequency I think, not necessarily the same length? They look like they're different diameters.

Ducati made a marketing song and dance about using different bore headers on similar grounds ISTR.
Depends on what you want to do with a two stroke, for instance, RD500s run the front cylinders in a different tune to the rear cylinders to boost the mid range, but they are effectively two engines joined together on a common clutch, whether you could get away with this on a single crank, I don't know, I think that eventually you'd twist the crank on it's centre pin. But for cylinders to run the same on any engine the exhausts have to have the same resonant qualities on each cylinder, there's a number of ways you can achieve this, especially on two strokes, four strokes are much easier to work out, where it's just the pipe length, diameter and taper that need to be taken into account, bends don't have a massive effect so long as you measure the length correctly - you have to average the inside and outside lengths of the bend - all this is theoretical, real world results may differ, and you can't beat someone with experience making you an exhaust.
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I remember reading that by the end of the two stroke era the Japanese had got so good at it that they didn't need to restrict bikes anymore, they just made them to only produce a certain amount of HP. This sounds a lot easier than it is, but prior to this they made bikes that worked and then restricted them to meet regulations.

Making a bike that revved out cleanly and felt like it wasn't held back in any way, but only producing a specific amount of power, was the result of some very clever engineering.
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Julian_Boolean wrote:I think that eventually you'd twist the crank on it's centre pin
Because some cylinders are more powerful than others?

In any multi cylinder engine, one cylinder is producing peak effective pressure and torque, while other cylinders are at negative pressure and torque.
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Exhaust tuning is alive and well as a science, it's done on quite sophisticated computer models now as you'd expect. It didn't die with 2 strokes either did it, ask anyone with a variable valve timing engine or funny flappy exhausts.
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HUSQVARNA-70 ... SwD1Bfz1k8

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Whys it interesting then.... well, it's a Husky SM with 10,000 miles, which IMO is quite interesting in it's own right :D
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weeksy wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:55 am https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HUSQVARNA-70 ... SwD1Bfz1k8

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Whys it interesting then.... well, it's a Husky SM with 10,000 miles, which IMO is quite interesting in it's own right :D
:lol:
Sell it to me and I'll soon put a stop to that! :D
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Taipan wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:59 am
weeksy wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:55 am https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HUSQVARNA-70 ... SwD1Bfz1k8

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Whys it interesting then.... well, it's a Husky SM with 10,000 miles, which IMO is quite interesting in it's own right :D
:lol:
Sell it to me and I'll soon put a stop to that! :D
Ah, you're just not cool enough for one matey. :D :thumbup:
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weeksy wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:00 am
Taipan wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:59 am
weeksy wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:55 am https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HUSQVARNA-70 ... SwD1Bfz1k8

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Whys it interesting then.... well, it's a Husky SM with 10,000 miles, which IMO is quite interesting in it's own right :D
:lol:
Sell it to me and I'll soon put a stop to that! :D
Ah, you're just not cool enough for one matey. :D :thumbup:
Right the NCX is getting a carbon fibre wrap. That should fix me image! :lol:
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Taipan wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:05 am
weeksy wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:00 am
Taipan wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:59 am

:lol:
Sell it to me and I'll soon put a stop to that! :D
Ah, you're just not cool enough for one matey. :D :thumbup:
Right the NCX is getting a carbon fibre wrap. That should fix me image! :lol:
As long as you match it with an MX helmet and some big boots !
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Taipan wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:46 am Stunning! 8-)



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weeksy wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:55 am https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HUSQVARNA-70 ... SwD1Bfz1k8

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Whys it interesting then.... well, it's a Husky SM with 10,000 miles, which IMO is quite interesting in it's own right :D
It's a KTM with different clothes, not an Italian Husqvarna.
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Taipan wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:46 am Stunning! 8-)



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Now that's my cup of 2 smoke. 8-)
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Skub wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:58 pm
Taipan wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:46 am Stunning! 8-)



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Now that's my cup of 2 smoke. 8-)
Imagine standing behind that, smelling the smoke and listening to it idle as the baffles rattle against the circlips... 8-)