Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

[Mr. Dazzle]

Loads more options on the market now too TBF. Chinese stuff is really cutting into Tesla cause its way cheaper. BMW and Renault have got some attractive options now too and Teslas are still "a bit shit" in every department save the powertrain. Oh and crash safety TBF, they've always been good there but that's mostly a generic EV thing.

Yebbut. A 24% drop in the month suggests that sales figures matter and it's not just incremental loss to Chinese makes. A possible reversal of 'all publicity is good publicity'.

Elon should have gone Woke

Still up overall though

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[Horse]

Clearly people will buy electric cars....but not so many Teslas. European sales plunge, shares down 9%.

Swasti-cars carrying a bit too much association with Mr Freedom of Speech. I expect he'll label us all Quislings and traitors because we have freedom of what we spend money on.

Second-hand market could be interesting.

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[Saga Lout]

Clearly people will buy electric cars....but not so many Teslas. European sales plunge, shares down 9%.

Swasti-cars carrying a bit too much association with Mr Freedom of Speech. I expect he'll label us all Quislings and traitors because we have freedom of what we spend money on.

Second-hand market could be interesting.

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That's offensive. I'm going to report you both for a hate crime.

Or would you rather have free speech?

[Count Steer]

Hell YES!!!!!

I thought that until I looked at the legislation linked to in the article, it's nothing like the car in the article.

With fully charged batteries, the vehicle has a maximum range of up to 45 kilometres and can reach a maximum speed of approximately 15-16 km/h.

I think the article got it a bit with that legislation link. Every other bit of info seems consistent with 100kph or 60mph. The EU has 15mph limit on some things like e-bikes and 45kmh on VSPs (although iirc there's talk of upping it because the slowness is dangerous).

Certainly Twizys in the UK do more than 15mph. ('Cos I was trying to keep up with my neighbour in hers one morning). France has a 5hp version limited to 45kmh which 14 year olds can drive and a 17hp one that'll do 80kmh which needs a full licence. We get the 17hp one.

[Taipan]

Never heard of the C-X75 u interesting look at Jaguars previous attempt at ground breaking. Is it possible the Type 00 is no more than a marketing exercise? There's no such thing as bad publicity and all that?

[KungFooBob]

I got passed by one of them new Polestars this morning, it's got no rear window!

[Mr. Dazzle]

Is it possible the Type 00 is no more than a marketing exercise?

Errr....

It's more than possible? That's the entire point of it.

[Felix]

Never heard of the C-X75 u interesting look at Jaguars previous attempt at ground breaking. Is it possible the Type 00 is no more than a marketing exercise? There's no such thing as bad publicity and all that?

Who designed that, Pixar?

[Taipan]

Is it possible the Type 00 is no more than a marketing exercise?

Errr....

It's more than possible? That's the entire point of it.

Of course but will there actually be a production car out of it.

[demographic]

Drop in internal combustion car sales, large increase in EV sales.

[wheelnut]

Three and a half months into mine and I’m still ok with it. Range anxiety is pretty much gone now as the range readout in the car is accurate to with, I would say, 5%.

Public chargers seem easy to use (if expensive), but I’ve only used them three times.

The party trick acceleration novelty has passed now and I’m sure as shit not missing putting £100 diesel in every week when I used to fill up.

[Wossname]

Public chargers seem easy to use (if expensive), but I’ve only used them three times.

I brought daughter’s id5 back from Swansea the other week, and had to stop at a fast public charger to give me enough to get home. Adding 60 miles cost me £15.

If you do any kind of long distance stuff you’ve got to use public chargers, and that’s the same cost as a thirsty petrol car.

We don’t have a home charger here, so I just plug it in to the mains socket in the garage. It charges at 6 miles per hour on charge, so a full charge will take about 30 hrs - no idea what that costs “me”.

I’m not convinced yet for anyone who does a mix of short and very long journeys, tho it suits her as 90% of her use is local.

[wheelnut]

Public chargers seem easy to use (if expensive), but I’ve only used them three times.

I brought daughter’s id5 back from Swansea the other week, and had to stop at a fast public charger to give me enough to get home. Adding 60 miles cost me £15.

If you do any kind of long distance stuff you’ve got to use public chargers, and that’s the same cost as a thirsty petrol car.

We don’t have a home charger here, so I just plug it in to the mains socket in the garage. It charges at 6 miles per hour on charge, so a full charge will take about 30 hrs - no idea what that costs “me”.

I’m not convinced yet for anyone who does a mix of short and very long journeys, tho it suits her as 90% of her use is local.

Yeah, public charging is expensive. Around 8-10 times what I pay to charge at home. Admittedly I’m probably the ideal candidate for an EV as I do a lot of miles, but generally within a 60 mile radius of home. My home charger can get it from 20% to 80% (around 200 miles) overnight at the EV tariff.

They’re definitely not for everyone though, if I did longer distances regularly it would become very wearing (and very expensive) quite quickly.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Some of the things in this model show where EVs will be going in the next few years. The new Mercedes CLA (linky below) is the same idea, basically the competitor to BMW as you'd expect. It's gonna be in the £30-50k range, so much like a Beemer/Merc/Audi of today and a nice middle ground between short range round around and mega expensive mega salloon.

Merc first out the gate with this, launched today. All the German OEMs have had / are having a proper scare from China. The VW ID1 will be along next year too, a little fiesta sized thing for cheap. Think I still like the BMW Neue Klasse the best though.

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-ger ... made/49622

400+ mile range, ability to charge 200 miles in 10 minutes, rumoured to be ~£40k price.

[Yorick]

Some of the things in this model show where EVs will be going in the next few years. The new Mercedes CLA (linky below) is the same idea, basically the competitor to BMW as you'd expect. It's gonna be in the £30-50k range, so much like a Beemer/Merc/Audi of today and a nice middle ground between short range round around and mega expensive mega salloon.

Merc first out the gate with this, launched today. All the German OEMs have had / are having a proper scare from China. The VW ID1 will be along next year too, a little fiesta sized thing for cheap. Think I still like the BMW Neue Klasse the best though.

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-ger ... made/49622

400+ mile range, ability to charge 200 miles in 10 minutes, rumoured to be ~£40k price.

Oooh. Just checked my pensions today and that is just the amount I've taken out today tax free.
Hmm. Not often I like a car that much.

[MrLongbeard]

[KungFooBob]

The specs look great, externally it looks great. WTF were they thinking with that interior?

[Mr. Dazzle]

I drive a car with one of those massive iPads in it - honestly, I wouldn't want to go back! Whenever I drive Mrs. D's clockwork Civic it always feels a bit shit

[Count Steer]

I drive a car with one of those massive iPads in it - honestly, I wouldn't want to go back! Whenever I drive Mrs. D's clockwork Civic it always feels a bit shit

Electric cars are for girls Mr D.

https://theconversation.com/electric-ca ... %20century

Some corking adverts in the article. + Windscreen wipers were invented by a woman.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Electric cars are for girls Mr D.

Gotta be honest, women typically have far better taste than men and make far better decisions, so I'm cool with that