Try to make him as comfortable as you can, pillow, etc. Blanket / quilt to keep him warm.
Oh man,this is a repeatedly familiar scenario from a couple of years ago. My Da,step mother,mother in law and next door neighbour. Every one a hip done in. Old folks don't bounce well.
Coincidentally, I'm logged on today. Had a message: "Are you falls trained, and do you have a Manger*?"
* Inflatable lifting device
No and no
This is another area where folk won't help because they are shit scared of legal comeback. My neighbour has fallen many times,often just a gentle slide to the floor,but she did fall and break her hip outside a couple of years ago. On that occasion I didn't try to move her as she was in pain,I wrapped her up warm with my heated bike jacket and blankets and waited for the ambulance.
She now has carers coming to the house several times a day and they are forbidden to lift anyone,they are instructed to phone for an ambulance. I've told them to try for me first to save any protracted waiting,or wasting resources already stretched to breaking point. So I go over and make sure she's not in any pain,then lift her up. We have the farcical situation where young carers in their 20s and 30s are made to stand and watch while someone not far off their 70th orbit of the sun does the lifting.
A fine example of health and safety regulations working against common sense.
Skub wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 4:09 pm
This is another area where folk won't help because they are shit scared of legal comeback. ...
. We have the farcical situation where young carers in their 20s and 30s are made to stand and watch while someone not far off their 70th orbit of the sun does the lifting.
A fine example of health and safety regulations working against common sense.
This is from a US site, but will be similar here:
Occupational back pain in nurses (OBPN) constitutes a major source of morbidity in the health care environment. According to the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH), occupational back injury is the second leading occupational injury in the United States. Among health care personnel, nurses have the highest rate of back pain, with an annual prevalence of 40-50% and a lifetime prevalence of 35-80%. The American Nursing Association believes that manual patient handling is unsafe and is directly responsible for musculoskeletal disorders encountered in nurses.
Another factor is skin tearing in the elderly. eg Things like pulling on the waistband of trousers.
I vaguely remember the rules back in the early 60s.
Youth (under 16) max about 40lb
Youth (16 - 18) max about 100lbs
Adult male (18+) No max.
I know we had to lift and manhandle Uniselecter racks weighing 17.5 cwt with 6 people. You could not physically get more than 6 in place to help.
My Dad's generation were even more rufty tufty. A chap I knew used to work in a corn mill. 2 blokes had to throw 140+ lb sacks up through a trapdoor in the ceiling.
Lifting stuff shouldn't hurt your back, if it does you are doing it wrong.
Bloody mad winds. Been awake since after 2am. The large picture window facing the direction of the storm is putting the shits up me by bowing and creaking with the gusts. Trees down locally,neighbour's fences and ariels too. The bastard is to blow all day in to the early hours tomorrow.
Cousin Jack wrote: ↑Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:45 pm
I vaguely remember the rules back in the early 60s.
Youth (under 16) max about 40lb
Youth (16 - 18) max about 100lbs
Adult male (18+) No max.
I know we had to lift and manhandle Uniselecter racks weighing 17.5 cwt with 6 people. You could not physically get more than 6 in place to help.
My Dad's generation were even more rufty tufty. A chap I knew used to work in a corn mill. 2 blokes had to throw 140+ lb sacks up through a trapdoor in the ceiling.
Lifting stuff shouldn't hurt your back, if it does you are doing it wrong.
Apparently funeral directors are injuring themselves carrying overweight deceased. They're not happy.
Buckaroo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:39 am
Apparently funeral directors are injuring themselves carrying overweight deceased. They're not happy.
'Bariatric' patients have been a concern for the ambulance service for a few years.
One US site notes:
Bariatric Transports
This specialty transport service requires a specially equipped ambulance that is modified to accommodate patients who weigh 350 to 1,200 pounds.
Buckaroo wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 10:39 am
Apparently funeral directors are injuring themselves carrying overweight deceased. They're not happy.
'Bariatric' patients have been a concern for the ambulance service for a few years.
One US site notes:
Bariatric Transports
This specialty transport service requires a specially equipped ambulance that is modified to accommodate patients who weigh 350 to 1,200 pounds.
(That's 85 stone)
Well at least there's career options for ex strongest man or woman contestants
Sitting outside my favourite cafebar waiting for friends to arrive to go for dinner next door!! Outside cos it’s rammed inside and I prefer a bit of a chill outside to being squished and trying to hear loads of French conversation
Life is for living. Buy the shoes. Eat the cake. Ride the bikes. Just, ride the bikes!!
Sitting watching Strictly, a bit late, but you know, been occupied with a birthday dinner with some mates up here!! Not sure I'll stay awake till the end cos I've had a few genepi
It's still snowing Kinda hoping there's some sunshine tomorrow as I'd kinda like to get a cheap lift pass and do a few runs (forecast suggests that early touring will be out due to weather! )
Life is for living. Buy the shoes. Eat the cake. Ride the bikes. Just, ride the bikes!!
It's been cooler than usual recently, so too cold to sit out for our tea.
So fired up the BBQ and that chucks out some lovely heat. Fire looks cool reflected in the glass.
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I’m sitting in a slowly cooling Sprinter as I have to wait two hours between jobs. The wait is ok. The not being able to wait anywhere near a toilet not so much!! The cold? I’ll just turn the engine back on soon
But, I did reverse parked it, twice, today . Very proud. Even sent the photo to my favourite instructor and whilst I’m pretty sure he was also mocking me a bit, he did say well done
Apparently I get the bigger version this weekend
There is a car in the space at the front
Life is for living. Buy the shoes. Eat the cake. Ride the bikes. Just, ride the bikes!!
Noggin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 5:23 pm
Sitting outside my favourite cafebar waiting for friends to arrive to go for dinner next door!! Outside cos it’s rammed inside and I prefer a bit of a chill outside to being squished and trying to hear loads of French conversation
How do you say "If these six sausages are six cents, these six sausages are no problem"!
Noggin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 07, 2024 5:23 pm
Sitting outside my favourite cafebar waiting for friends to arrive to go for dinner next door!! Outside cos it’s rammed inside and I prefer a bit of a chill outside to being squished and trying to hear loads of French conversation
How do you say "If these six sausages are six cents, these six sausages are no problem"!
No idea - I normally just shrug!!
Life is for living. Buy the shoes. Eat the cake. Ride the bikes. Just, ride the bikes!!
Not sure I'll stay awake till the end cos I've had a few genepi 
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