Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:15 am
When was the first Martini livery anyway? I always associate it with Lancia rally cars. Williams F1 had it for a while too.
Early 1970's on a Porsche IIRC. I read about it when looking to have my Transit resprayed in Gulf colours.
The current white Vivaro is starting to look a bit dull to me, which is mildly worrying.
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:15 am
When was the first Martini livery anyway? I always associate it with Lancia rally cars. Williams F1 had it for a while too.
weeksy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:30 am
Looks great Bellwood
When you say 'minor' you mean.... well... not minor
I'll be honest, i'd be embarrassed to drive round in that.
I probably would have cared what other people think a few years ago and I probably wouldn’t wear even a polo shirt with racing decals all over it, but I feel like a daft car like a GT3 should be loud and lairy.
My wife wants this…(and I’d be happy to buy it if I was able to get back and view it)
I'd deffo buy a neon coloured GT3 over a black/primer grey one. S'gotta be done.
I might even stomach a liveried up one.
Matching Polo shirt is tragic thouugh Well, you can do it if you're a racing driver and you're getting that shirt for free*. Or the matching watch, even worse
*I used to live in a flat directly below another flat owned/rented by Red Bull Racing here in MK. They house young drivers from their F1 programme in it, I'd often see said kids in the lift wearing all their Red Bull gear, some of it was quite nice actually. Stuff you can't buy, not overtly branded up but when you look closer you see the RB logo integrated into various designs.
It always used to be the case IME that supercar and F1 branded gear was actually pretty decent stuff. Make your own decisions about the branding, but it was usually based on quality gear underneath.
Now they just ask £50 for a cheapo 'technical' T-shirt
Potter wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:04 am
I was given a really nice blue Martini racing polo shirt when I bought my Carrera 2. I wore it the other day around the house and my wife commented how nice it was. But I feel a bit self conscious in it because it screems Superdry collar-up twat on a McDonald’s car park in a Golf GTI, and I’d definitely feel a berk driving a Porsche in it.
Potter wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:04 am
I was given a really nice blue Martini racing polo shirt when I bought my Carrera 2. I wore it the other day around the house and my wife commented how nice it was. But I feel a bit self conscious in it because it screems Superdry collar-up twat on a McDonald’s car park in a Golf GTI, and I’d definitely feel a berk driving a Porsche in it.
Remember going to Le Mans for the 24hrs, all the boys wearing their Aston Martin Hackett polo's with popped collars
Potter wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:04 am
I was given a really nice blue Martini racing polo shirt when I bought my Carrera 2. I wore it the other day around the house and my wife commented how nice it was. But I feel a bit self conscious in it because it screems Superdry collar-up twat on a McDonald’s car park in a Golf GTI, and I’d definitely feel a berk driving a Porsche in it.
Seems like a pretty accurate description to me.
I don't know why it's such a faux pas and if I actually stop to think about it I'm still struggling to work out the actual logic of why it's wrong to wear a Porsche t-shirt if you drive a Porsche, maybe it's that British thing where you shouldn't show off that you own anything nice, if you go around wearing a Ferrari t-shirt and you actually own a Ferrari people will think you're a twat for it.
If you ride a Trek bicycle and you wear a Trek t-shirt do people laugh at you?
See that's the weird thing isn't it. Wearing a Trek/Specialized/Atherton then no, you're not.
Wearing a KTM you're not berated for that either or Ducati
But yeah a car one is a bit more frowned upon by many...
Skub wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 6:07 pm
It breaks the carefully written rules of naffdom,under the flaunting subsection.
For example,folk with big money won't be seen wearing a RR t-shirt,otherwise the smallfolk may be outraged. Same thing with all big money wagons.
It's not just the expensive stuff. There was a whole meme about couples turning up in their Fiesta at tracks to spectate - wearing matching Fordsport anoraks. But there is the whole logos on clothing/fashion items thing as a 'some people might not know this was expensive' - whereas the classy folk just look expensive without carrying the advertising. (eg a tailored (generic) Saville Row suit looks like what it is and doesn't need a name on the pocket *shudder*.
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But certainty is an absurd one.
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Potter wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 10:04 am
I was given a really nice blue Martini racing polo shirt when I bought my Carrera 2. I wore it the other day around the house and my wife commented how nice it was. But I feel a bit self conscious in it because it screems Superdry collar-up twat on a McDonald’s car park in a Golf GTI, and I’d definitely feel a berk driving a Porsche in it.
Seems like a pretty accurate description to me.
I don't know why it's such a faux pas and if I actually stop to think about it I'm still struggling to work out the actual logic of why it's wrong to wear a Porsche t-shirt if you drive a Porsche, maybe it's that British thing where you shouldn't show off that you own anything nice, if you go around wearing a Ferrari t-shirt and you actually own a Ferrari people will think you're a twat for it.
If you ride a Trek bicycle and you wear a Trek t-shirt do people laugh at you?
People probably just don't believe you have a Porsche if they see you in a supermarket or the pub wearing it so they probably think its naff because of that. Then of course there's the jealousy/resentment thing if they know you do have one. Its why expensive cars get vandalised.
Shame, as a lot of merch clothing is good quality stuff. When my car when into Land Rover for a security update I was mooching about in the show room whilst they were doing it. They had a really nice quality gilet which caught my eye and I would have bought one but they didn't have any fat bastard sizes left! TBH if Porsche gave me a t-shirt I'd wear it, but I'm pretty thick skinned when it comes to opinions of people i dont even know! Fuck 'em!
When I was racing the little Ducati I bought the wife a couple of casual Ducati jackets. She thought they were pretty cool. I think there were made by Spidi, just shell type stuff.
In fact she was wearing one when we walked around the VW/Audi place in the centre of Berlin. It was when the Audi/Ducati thing was pretty new and they had a single Monster in the entrance hall. A concierge type fellow found us as we were walking round and handed her a Ducati desk calendar, just because she was wearing the jacket.
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:02 pm
Really go all in and wear your Porsche shirt while driving a Ferrari.
That's probably the only way it won't look naff. Owning a car should be a blase thing, if you appear to care too much then others can see you stretched your finances and couldn't really afford it.
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:02 pm
Really go all in and wear your Porsche shirt while driving a Ferrari.
That's probably the only way it won't look naff. Owning a car should be a blase thing, if you appear to care too much then others can see you stretched your finances and couldn't really afford it.
Very rare you see a flash car here. Folk aren't impressed by them.
Loads of brand new cars, but they're bought to enjoy, not to impress the Joneses
I don't know why it's such a faux pas and if I actually stop to think about it I'm still struggling to work out the actual logic of why it's wrong to wear a Porsche t-shirt if you drive a Porsche, maybe it's that British thing where you shouldn't show off that you own anything nice, if you go around wearing a Ferrari t-shirt and you actually own a Ferrari people will think you're a twat for it.
If you ride a Trek bicycle and you wear a Trek t-shirt do people laugh at you?
People probably just don't believe you have a Porsche if they see you in a supermarket or the pub wearing it so they probably think its naff because of that. Then of course there's the jealousy/resentment thing if they know you do have one. Its why expensive cars get vandalised.
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I think people probably would think the same when I'm wearing this
Seriously though, I haven't worn it yet, and don't envisage so doing, except maybe for a Podium presentation shot if I have to
Well, you can do it if you're a racing driver and you're getting that shirt for free*. Or the matching watch, even worse 
But there is the whole logos on clothing/fashion items thing as a 'some people might not know this was expensive' - whereas the classy folk just look expensive without carrying the advertising. 
