Car thread - which one?

[ZRX61]

There used to be a bloke on the old forum with a Ferrari and he said people would spit on it if he parked it in town, I've never understood it, even when I was homeless I never felt it, but there are people that would slash Vermeer's Girl with a Pearl Earring just because they have something inside them that can't accept beauty without feeling resent.

There was a bloke at my Dr's office who had a Ford SuperDuty with a fade paint job that was red on top &changed to black at the bottom. Some muppet ran a key along both sides of it. Now I see a regular SD parked there with plain white paint.

[ZRX61]

Do you need an extra licence category for those?

Nope, regular car license. Roomies kid said "if he cleans all his crap (?!?!) out of the garage, he could park it in there" (we were discussing a carport on the side of the house). She told him that even if we took EVERYTHING out of the garage it still wouldn't fit & there's some question as to it being able to pass through the door.

[Noggin]

I've had Astons as loan or test cars and honestly they drive like a Mondeo.

I think that's actually a statement on how good Mondeo like cars are now

All these classic, even 90s cars, are gonna be A Bit Shit™ compared to something even vaguely capable and modern. Not just in performance, but refinement, fuel economy, the stereo, etc. etc.

Back at the dawn of time I used to get a lift into Uni in an AC Cobra...it was a bit erm, unrefined, even then. Lovely shape and noise though.

A Shelby Cobra is on my 'lotto list'!! Would bloody love one

[Mr. Dazzle]

"Looks nice" is something of an understatement so far as the GT40 shape goes.

[weeksy]

Out of my price range and I'm not normally into these, but this looks nice - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/235462639940 ... KTLJv-9Yao

From listening to top Gear and other reports, most of these things, including that one above are bloody awful to drive though. Especially in the UK roads. Rattly, agricultural etc...

I bet something like a Mitsubishi Evo VIII would be night and day better.

[Mr. Dazzle]

If you wanted a car which is plush etc and still fast etc you'd be mad to not buy a 911. Which I think Potter already did?

Or even the Aston which "drives like a Mondeo". I.e. refined.

[weeksy]

From listening to top Gear and other reports, most of these things, including that one above are bloody awful to drive though. Especially in the UK roads. Rattly, agricultural etc...

I bet something like a Mitsubishi Evo VIII would be night and day better.

Yeah I reckon an average saloon car would be a nicer drive.

I think in general supercars or higher end sporty cars have been made a lot more usable, my 911 was very usable in pretty much every situation, I could take my old mum shopping in the morning and do a track day in the afternoon - but the old cliche unfortunately comes into play and the more sanitised and usable they become, the more boring they are.

When I was looking at a Ferrari 355 a few years ago in Dubai the guy selling it was really honest and made sure I knew it wasn't a daily driver, for sure you'll get people who say you can, there are people that use a Caterham as a daily driver, but they're not meant for it really - although having said that, the Caterham is so well designed ergonomically it's a lovely place to sit, it's just that it's too low down, lumpy engine, etc.

And all of that is why the Porsche makes more sense, assuming you're buying it to drive it. But... in truth the Caterham and Range Rover is probably a better version for 99% of days.

[KungFooBob]

When I win the lotto I'm going to buy an old E60 M5 as my daily driver, id probably debadge it too.

[Mr. Dazzle]

When I win the lotto I'm going to buy an old E60 M5 as my daily driver, id probably debadge it too.

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/15907882

Or if you want an E60.

https://www.carandclassic.com/car/C1585827

[KungFooBob]

It's got to be an E60 and not an estate!

The E60 shape looked like a proper butch hard man's car, all the 5ers since have looked a bit feminine, imho.

[Mr. Dazzle]

Pretty sure someone on here has/had an E60 Alpina saloon, the one with the weird swirly supercharger.

[weeksy]

Pretty sure someone on here has/had an E60 Alpina saloon, the one with the weird swirly supercharger.

@rodbargee

[Jody]

Let's leave the money out of it (at least for now) but if you were going to buy a classic supercar (from my era), then which one do you reckon holds that classic shape and looks nicer?

I'm genuinely torn, they're both icons of my time.

It would be porsche for me as it's the most practical and the least LOOK AT MEEEEEE

[Jody]

I don't think the Countach was ever about the drive, or even the performance. It was all about the looks. And even if you didn't like driving it, I bet you looked really, really cool.

The father of a kid I was at school with had one back around 1976, allegedly the third one in the UK at the time. Got a few rides in it when his dad saw me walking between the villages where I lived in Cornwall. His collection included a DBS Vantage, Pantera, Gilburn, & Firebird.
He (Ernie Marshal) still has newer Lambos, lives in Micheal Foot's old gaff in Callinton & has a EE Lightning on the lawn.

In other news, I threw another bid at that F350. Also discovered it's far cheaper to insure than my ShitBox Accord.

I saw his yellow lambo several years ago. Reg Plate ERN1E

[rodbargee]

ahh! that was me, I sold my B5 late summer last year went to a chap in bumfuck nowhere Norfolk fine machine was a real supercar 195 mph and over 500 BHP this was it just at the time of sale
I figured having had it for 8 years Id got the best out of it...it ran faultlessly and was the fastest thing i've ever owned on 4 wheels, bike fast it is.

oil free swirly supercharger gives a genuine 32 mpg at 80 on the motorway A B5 S recently sold for 45K at auction more than twice what I took for mine the s had an extra 30 BHP. Alpina always under stated the power output

[Mr. Dazzle]

bike fast it is.

I once followed an E63 AMG Estate, a very similar sort of car to this ^, across MK on my VFR750. Obviously not a super bike, but still reasonably fast and certainly faster than most cars! Coming out of roundabouts absolutely pinne up the redline in 2nd and 3rd gear the Merc was still pulling away.

The dog in the boot was probably laughing at me.

[rodbargee]

bike fast it is.

I once followed an E63 AMG Estate, a very similar sort of car to this ^, across MK on my VFR750. Obviously not a super bike, but still reasonably fast and certainly faster than most cars! Coming out of roundabouts absolutely pinne up the redline in 2nd and 3rd gear the Merc was still pulling away.

The dog in the boot was probably laughing at me.

It was quickest from 80 through till 200 ish, never went that quick myself but the journalists did, all the figures they quoted were achieved time and again 0-60 4.5 secs first gear had to be selected intentionally, it would set off in second normally. Off the mark was a violent affair hardly any time in 1st and you were changing gear as fast as you could. there are bargains out there but ou have to really check service history for correct oil filters quite often garages would fit ordinary seven series filters that starved the charger of oil then Boom £5K thankyou please

[rodbargee]

The only other super car I had time with was a Ferrari 430 Modena, thats a piece of kit, very quick and makes a real audio fuss about it. I suppose the servicing would be just as theatrical with huge bills. I did like it though, spent a day with it recording it for a film.

[Le_Fromage_Grande]

I had a little race with an AMG Merc in 2003, I was on a 2002 GSXR750, I was doing about 90ish when I caught up with him on a dual carriageway, rather than pulling into the left hand lane and letting me come past he tried to out accelerate me, he ran out of go at about 155mph and finally decided to pull into the left hand lane, I accelerated up to an indicated 175ish and kisses past him, tbh it was a bit dull, the GSXR was obviously quicker than the car.

[KungFooBob]

Most of the German stuff is restricted by gentleman's agreement to 155mph.

I've never got there. My BMW 330 hit 140 and felt like it was about to take off, my SL feels really planted at 140, but I'm too old to try and hit the limiter.

In the SL I can still have a conversation with the passenger with the roof down at 100mph. On my GS the intercom is barely audible above 80mph

I've see 180mph on amy auld Blade, but I reckon it was nearer 160mpg, if that. And 180mph on a ZX9R, which felt like 180mph!