Horse wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:27 pm
Noggin wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:00 pm
It takes around a second to restart but also there is a lag on the acceleration. So, even with the engine on, from a standing start I have to account for the delay in the vehicle actually getting moving when I'm looking at gaps in the traffic (roundabouts are the main issue as folks here are slightly random on them!). Add in the time to get the engine started to the lag in acceleration and it makes things 'interesting'. I never go for a gap if the engine isn't already going!!
I may well be doing something wrong, but I've not worked out what it is yet, so I just kill the stop start once out of town (well, out of Annecy!) and then I only have to account for the lag in acceleration
In my car, it will only switch off once per stop.
If yours is similar, perhaps just touch the throttle to get the engine started? (Foot on the brake too)
Yep, I can do that, and do - but it doesn't take away the second issue of the lag to accelerate, but also, it will stop when I really don't want it to, quite often just before I actually fully stop. For instance, coming up to a roundabout, in a manual you can coast 'almost' to a stop but in gear and then accelerate into a gap. I've stopped even thinking about that because sometimes the s/s thing thinks I've actually stopped or will stop so it kills the engine and then I can't get going fast enough for the gap I was aiming at
I'm sure it's me, but I've given up and kill the s/s now unless I'm in traffic in town - and then if I'm in a traffic queue it restarts anyway if I haven't moved soon enough
Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:54 pm
There's certainly a certain demographic who are most opposed to it.
It's basically invisible to me. Don't even think about it, even when I'm accounting for it. Like changing gear or using the wipers.
I probably fit into that demographic. But TBF, I am only anti what doesn't actually work - so probably it would be fine on other vehicles but on the various ones I've driven (the work minibuses, passat and a friends gurtly big Subaru), I've found fault with most of the 'help' stuff -
- as discussed, the s/s on the minibuses sux big ones
- auto windscreen wipers - don't think they have the same idea of how fast they need to go or how often as I do. I either have to turn them on to clear the screen or turn them off because the are going at warp speed in a light rain!!
- auto full beam - WTAF - if I can't have full beam on auto if I'm doing less than 50kmph, then it's useless, as is turning off the full beam because of the reflection of a road sign!! TBH, it's the slow speed lack of full beam that pisses me off the most. My mate that lent me the Subaru whilst I was house/cat sitting lives in a tiny village with very little street lighting. The car would not give me full beam whilst driving into the village because I was going too slowly but it was dark that I wanted it to be sure I was driving safely! (Didn't know the area very well!) Also took me ages to realise that I could turn it off auto and manage the headlights as I wanted!!
Actually, the headlight thing isn't totally awful apart from the slow speed thing, but it also takes a split second longer to go back to dip than I would take - or more as often I'd dip the lights before the oncoming car comes around the corner.
I'm sure higher spec vehicles are better, but so far, my experience has been that the driver aids aren't - and also WTF can't drivers sort out windscreen wipers/headlights themselves? Surely it isn't too difficult for the average driver? Sometimes feels like a solution to a problem that wasn't there?