Honestly,I feel no difference at all,before or after. I wasn't tired or falling asleep all the time,the deficiency didn't seem to affect me in that way.Felix wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2023 6:24 pmHow you getting on with that B12 jabs? I start feeling i need a fix at 9 or 10 weeks. I started to take B12 supplements but if i could get some syringes i would just inject the buggers myself.Skub wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:07 pm @Potter I had one such episode a few years ago,surreal and detached. Like most blokes I'm not a doc chaser,but it concerned me enough to get a few blood tests and they revealed my B12 was borkened,so that was me on the jabs every 3 months.
It might be a good idea to get a few bloods done to keep you right.
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"Be kind to past versions of yourself that didn't know what you know now."
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I am Mr Sleepy after two month or so but having said that they discovered Pernicious Anaemia at the same time so on Iron tabs and Folic Acid. I got nothing that Iccy mentions i was just tired and needed a nap before tea time.
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By buggery it's ruddy bright.MrLongbeard wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:06 pm Noticed I've started to slip, so ordered myself a therapy light
Comes with 3 modes, 'relax' (very warm yellow light) for first and last thing, 'active' (cold white light) for morning working and 'therapy' (white blue light that rivals the output of 1000 suns) to imitate normal daylight.
Been using it a week, and yeah, but nah, but maybe it's doing something, oh sure it may be no more than the placebo effect, but if a placebo fools the body into working is it really a placebo.....
The effect it's having on me is interesting, to me at least, physically I can feel the side of my face getting warm as if I'm outside on a summer day, which is an odd sensation when sat next to an open window in winter, will keep using it and see what happens, if owt, long term.
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Sounds interesting. I like teh idee of a gentle warm light coming into the room to help wake me. Seems better than a startling bell in darkness!
I've always said, if a placebo works, its better than medication!
I've always said, if a placebo works, its better than medication!
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That sounds nice, I've got a wife and daughter that get up an hour before I have to, I've not needed to set my alarm in years
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It was the wife's alarm that wakes me. I'm thinking of her as well as me you now...MrLongbeard wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:09 pmThat sounds nice, I've got a wife and daughter that get up an hour before I have to, I've not needed to set my alarm in years
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Mrs D (and therefore by extension, I) has one of those sunrise wake me up lamps on the bedside table.
It really makes me laugh, cause if you don't wake up by the time it's finished doing it's sunrise routine it has a really aggressive "BEEP BEEEEEP BEEPEBEEPBEEPBEEP" alarm.
'You had your chance, it's time for a dose of reality' sort of thing.
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If it was within reach, i'd probably launch it!Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 7:32 amMrs D (and therefore by extension, I) has one of those sunrise wake me up lamps on the bedside table.
It really makes me laugh, cause if you don't wake up by the time it's finished doing it's sunrise routine it has a really aggressive "BEEP BEEEEEP BEEPEBEEPBEEPBEEP" alarm.
'You had your chance, it's time for a dose of reality' sort of thing.
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I spent a lot of the weekend with a lad who suffers badly. He's the sort of person you don't expect to as he's so batshit crazy normally and has us in stitches.
Any he had a massive meltdown about a mile into our 2nd enduro ride.
I got him back to tarmac and he was able to get back to his digs.
Talking to him last night he's on mega medication and finds it really hard sometimes. His mates who came with him are all very supportive.
He said he'd spent most of the day in the sea. Said he'd been free diving.
I thought that was going deep. Apparently not.
Only 10/15 feet down but just sits there for 3 minutes. Sort of medication. Loads of beautiful fish where he was.
And at nights he straps torches to his forearms
Helps him a lot.
Any he had a massive meltdown about a mile into our 2nd enduro ride.
I got him back to tarmac and he was able to get back to his digs.
Talking to him last night he's on mega medication and finds it really hard sometimes. His mates who came with him are all very supportive.
He said he'd spent most of the day in the sea. Said he'd been free diving.
I thought that was going deep. Apparently not.
Only 10/15 feet down but just sits there for 3 minutes. Sort of medication. Loads of beautiful fish where he was.
And at nights he straps torches to his forearms
Helps him a lot.
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That's sad to hear and no doubt it was tough for you too. Does he know what triggers these episodes? I remember during CBT that I had to learn the signs of a build up and the trigger, then take avoiding action.Yorick wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 12:33 pm I spent a lot of the weekend with a lad who suffers badly. He's the sort of person you don't expect to as he's so batshit crazy normally and has us in stitches.
Any he had a massive meltdown about a mile into our 2nd enduro ride.
I got him back to tarmac and he was able to get back to his digs.
Talking to him last night he's on mega medication and finds it really hard sometimes. His mates who came with him are all very supportive.
He said he'd spent most of the day in the sea. Said he'd been free diving.
I thought that was going deep. Apparently not.
Only 10/15 feet down but just sits there for 3 minutes. Sort of medication. Loads of beautiful fish where he was.
And at nights he straps torches to his forearms
Helps him a lot.
I'm sure you know this already, but it's easily forgotten and then it's too late.
Just a thought.
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I've just watched an amazing video by Taylor McKenzie.
I raced against his dad. (Beat him once)
I watched him grow up from 4 years old as he often came to trackdays when his dad was instructing alongside me.
Then later he also became an instructor and we'd often have a little chat.
This shows him as an amazingly honest and intelligent lad.
And talks very openly about his depression.
It's only 15 minutes. I'm bloody glad I found out it by mistake
Enjoy
I raced against his dad. (Beat him once)
I watched him grow up from 4 years old as he often came to trackdays when his dad was instructing alongside me.
Then later he also became an instructor and we'd often have a little chat.
This shows him as an amazingly honest and intelligent lad.
And talks very openly about his depression.
It's only 15 minutes. I'm bloody glad I found out it by mistake
Enjoy
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I'm sure it's just the time of year, but by golly I am in a pit of depression at the moment.
Been on Sertraline for a few months, upped the dose in October. Cannot get excited about anything. Interest in everything has gone completely, mindlessly watch YouTube videos looking for something to inspire me. No interest in work, no interest in looking or training for something else, feel like my life is done at 48 and any plans I did have just need to go on the back burner and stay there. Then you turn on the TV or scroll through the internet and see how bad other people have it and feel guilty for acting like this.
I have taken a new interest in chocolate, my waistline can attest to that at least
Been on Sertraline for a few months, upped the dose in October. Cannot get excited about anything. Interest in everything has gone completely, mindlessly watch YouTube videos looking for something to inspire me. No interest in work, no interest in looking or training for something else, feel like my life is done at 48 and any plans I did have just need to go on the back burner and stay there. Then you turn on the TV or scroll through the internet and see how bad other people have it and feel guilty for acting like this.
I have taken a new interest in chocolate, my waistline can attest to that at least
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I think SSRIs like Sertraline can remove the highs as well as the lows. It can make life feel a bit flat.
Depression can go away by itself or as a result of changes in your life.
You will feel better soon, even if that doesn't seem likely right now.
Depression can go away by itself or as a result of changes in your life.
You will feel better soon, even if that doesn't seem likely right now.
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Pretty much how I feel too, minus the medication.darthpunk wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:01 pm I'm sure it's just the time of year, but by golly I am in a pit of depression at the moment.
Been on Sertraline for a few months, upped the dose in October. Cannot get excited about anything. Interest in everything has gone completely, mindlessly watch YouTube videos looking for something to inspire me. No interest in work, no interest in looking or training for something else, feel like my life is done at 48 and any plans I did have just need to go on the back burner and stay there. Then you turn on the TV or scroll through the internet and see how bad other people have it and feel guilty for acting like this.
I have taken a new interest in chocolate, my waistline can attest to that at least
I tried various SSRI's and I'd say I felt flat at best.
Good luck, hope you feel better soon.
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I’m no fan of SSRI’s they flatline all emotions in me so I don’t take them having tried them. The interest in chocolate may be you like the chemicals it releases in the brain, things like dopamine. My be worth speaking to your doc and asking for a different SSRI, some like fluoxetine help with a dopamine deficiency. Obviously this is only my personal experience but may be worth a change if doc agrees. Of course they may say internet person is talking shit in which case ignore me !darthpunk wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:01 pm I'm sure it's just the time of year, but by golly I am in a pit of depression at the moment.
Been on Sertraline for a few months, upped the dose in October. Cannot get excited about anything. Interest in everything has gone completely, mindlessly watch YouTube videos looking for something to inspire me. No interest in work, no interest in looking or training for something else, feel like my life is done at 48 and any plans I did have just need to go on the back burner and stay there. Then you turn on the TV or scroll through the internet and see how bad other people have it and feel guilty for acting like this.
I have taken a new interest in chocolate, my waistline can attest to that at least
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A very wise man at my first job gave me some very good advice.Couchy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:47 pmI’m no fan of SSRI’s they flatline all emotions in me so I don’t take them having tried them. The interest in chocolate may be you like the chemicals it releases in the brain, things like dopamine. My be worth speaking to your doc and asking for a different SSRI, some like fluoxetine help with a dopamine deficiency. Obviously this is only my personal experience but may be worth a change if doc agrees. Of course they may say internet person is talking shit in which case ignore me !darthpunk wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:01 pm I'm sure it's just the time of year, but by golly I am in a pit of depression at the moment.
Been on Sertraline for a few months, upped the dose in October. Cannot get excited about anything. Interest in everything has gone completely, mindlessly watch YouTube videos looking for something to inspire me. No interest in work, no interest in looking or training for something else, feel like my life is done at 48 and any plans I did have just need to go on the back burner and stay there. Then you turn on the TV or scroll through the internet and see how bad other people have it and feel guilty for acting like this.
I have taken a new interest in chocolate, my waistline can attest to that at least
Always listen to folk's advice. Then decide whether to follow it or not.
If you don't listen, you might miss out on summat good.
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I can't deal with them. I have been prescribed them numerous times by doctors that don't know what they are doing... A flatline would result in my impending suicide quite frankly... I know the NHS love to hand them out like sweets, believing that they are a one size fits all solution. But they just flatline people, turn them into Zombies. I'd rather deal with the lows as long as I can still have the highs!MyLittleStudPony wrote: ↑Mon Dec 18, 2023 12:18 pm I think SSRIs like Sertraline can remove the highs as well as the lows. It can make life feel a bit flat.
Depression can go away by itself or as a result of changes in your life.
You will feel better soon, even if that doesn't seem likely right now.
I have found, strangely, that riding bikes helps enormously with my mental health... So equipping myself with bikes and gear that I can use all year round come what may has helped significantly too, rather than it being a summertime only passtime.
It's also worth remembering that most people out there are self obsessed cunts too...
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I'm fairly sure that finding motorbikes pretty much saved my life. The last 6 years have been really tough as the two passions in life I have have been restricted due to injury. But I've kept on going because 'this summer I'll be riding bikes all summer' - I've only said that before each summer for the last 5 years !! The thought that 'soon' I'll both have a bike and the ability to actually ride it is something that has kept me from just sitting at the bottom of the black hole - I've been bouncing along a bit because at some point, I WILL be able to ride again. And this winter I seem to be ok fitness wise to ski a reasonable amountmboy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 25, 2023 9:00 pm I can't deal with them. I have been prescribed them numerous times by doctors that don't know what they are doing... A flatline would result in my impending suicide quite frankly... I know the NHS love to hand them out like sweets, believing that they are a one size fits all solution. But they just flatline people, turn them into Zombies. I'd rather deal with the lows as long as I can still have the highs!
I have found, strangely, that riding bikes helps enormously with my mental health... So equipping myself with bikes and gear that I can use all year round come what may has helped significantly too, rather than it being a summertime only passtime.
It's also worth remembering that most people out there are self obsessed cunts too...
But I don't think that it's strange that riding bikes helps with mental health - it 100% does for me
Life is for living. Buy the shoes. Eat the cake. Ride the bikes. Just, ride the bikes!!
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Stuff at work today has thrown the D word in my face a bit. Having to spell out that I'm registered disabled for work wasn't something I found remotely easy.
And that word is so hard to write - I don't shout that I'm disabled because despite it being a small disability compared to many friends (lets leave out mental stuff), it's quite a big thing to someone that never let anyone tell her that she couldn't do something cos she'd damn well go try it! And I don't 'look' disabled. I've learnt to hide it really well (most people just think that I'm left handed cos I rarely use my right hand when I'm out as don't need the spasm of pain to cause me to cry out and then have to explain!). A mate that has come out for the season hadn't seen me for 3 years - she's amazed that I stand 'properly' now. Before apparently I was lopsided! Now I look 'normal'! Which makes it even harder for people to understand that - my arm doesn't work properly and causes me pain depending on what I do.
I've had friends and family say, "oh but you can do that when your arm is better" - I don't always say "this is as good as it's gonna get mate. It's never going to be 'better' " . This is it and the prognosis is that it'll get worse and need replacing again in a few years (7 ish if I get ten years of life out of it - maybe more if I don't abuse it too much!!). I got bored of explaining shit like that to people that really don't care that much (family and friends to be fair - has been a shock to my system, not something I got used to in the last 6 years, that they don't seem to care!)
I did start to occasionally use the D word with a couple of friends but it's hard to accept. I think especially because I have a few friends that are 'properly' disabled - wheelchairs/false limbs. I feel like I should MTFU because it's not THAT bad.
I suppose I'm putting this here as I don't know where else to put it, and it makes me cry! Didn't realise how big a 'thing' it is in my head until I've had to talk about it so much today and explain to people. If it's just in my head I can ignore it, but I think it's been festering a bit more than I realised.
I wish my head could be less fcuked up and I really wish my shoulder/arm could be much less fcuked up - but the second definitely isn't possible and I guess I need to work on the first one!!
Mostly I'm ok, but could have really done with not being on my own this Christmas - and definitely not having the most mad day at work that left me in pain and far too tired (between the work and the pain) to actually go out anywhere and see people - just took the bus to chat with a mate and popped into a restaurant to see another - not exactly socialising tho!!! But I'll bounce - I always do eventually (well, not after I've flown off a motorbike I guess!! ). Just takes a bit longer sometimes to haul ass and get the balance No magic wand out there it seems
And that word is so hard to write - I don't shout that I'm disabled because despite it being a small disability compared to many friends (lets leave out mental stuff), it's quite a big thing to someone that never let anyone tell her that she couldn't do something cos she'd damn well go try it! And I don't 'look' disabled. I've learnt to hide it really well (most people just think that I'm left handed cos I rarely use my right hand when I'm out as don't need the spasm of pain to cause me to cry out and then have to explain!). A mate that has come out for the season hadn't seen me for 3 years - she's amazed that I stand 'properly' now. Before apparently I was lopsided! Now I look 'normal'! Which makes it even harder for people to understand that - my arm doesn't work properly and causes me pain depending on what I do.
I've had friends and family say, "oh but you can do that when your arm is better" - I don't always say "this is as good as it's gonna get mate. It's never going to be 'better' " . This is it and the prognosis is that it'll get worse and need replacing again in a few years (7 ish if I get ten years of life out of it - maybe more if I don't abuse it too much!!). I got bored of explaining shit like that to people that really don't care that much (family and friends to be fair - has been a shock to my system, not something I got used to in the last 6 years, that they don't seem to care!)
I did start to occasionally use the D word with a couple of friends but it's hard to accept. I think especially because I have a few friends that are 'properly' disabled - wheelchairs/false limbs. I feel like I should MTFU because it's not THAT bad.
I suppose I'm putting this here as I don't know where else to put it, and it makes me cry! Didn't realise how big a 'thing' it is in my head until I've had to talk about it so much today and explain to people. If it's just in my head I can ignore it, but I think it's been festering a bit more than I realised.
I wish my head could be less fcuked up and I really wish my shoulder/arm could be much less fcuked up - but the second definitely isn't possible and I guess I need to work on the first one!!
Mostly I'm ok, but could have really done with not being on my own this Christmas - and definitely not having the most mad day at work that left me in pain and far too tired (between the work and the pain) to actually go out anywhere and see people - just took the bus to chat with a mate and popped into a restaurant to see another - not exactly socialising tho!!! But I'll bounce - I always do eventually (well, not after I've flown off a motorbike I guess!! ). Just takes a bit longer sometimes to haul ass and get the balance No magic wand out there it seems
Life is for living. Buy the shoes. Eat the cake. Ride the bikes. Just, ride the bikes!!