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Does it still exist? - Do you apply it to your standard day?

I have just been over hearing a conversation between 4 LSA's in a school staffroom. They were complaining that everyone is ill all the time in schools and as they no longer have the covid rules in place it has made it worse.

They also then went onto say that as the advise to wash your hands etc before you eat is no longer in place it makes it worse!

Now - it might just be me, but i don't have to have someone to tell me how to run my life, when to clean my hands and when i should take precautions against things possibly happening to me and others, it's designed into me as common sense.

It almost seems to me now that the continued de-evolution of the human race has now got to the point where no-one actively wants to think for themselves anymore, it's like they all need a master to tell them what to do!

Do you see/feel this too?

Or is it just me?
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Re: Common Sense

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The problem with common sense is that it isn't that common, unfortunately.
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Greenman wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:46 am it's like they all need a master to tell them what to do!
Maybe it's more noticeable in the education environment. You have youngsters with no experience of the world being taught by people who went from one school to another,then finished up back at school teaching,so a lot of them have no experience in the real world either.

When you attend any parent/teacher meetings,the teacher can only address you in the same manner they do with their pupils,they even make you sit on little chairs to underline the point,they are in charge.

Most people learn fuck all until they leave school and if you never left.....

Regarding hygiene,there are a fair number of dirty bastards of both genders,that's certainly common.
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And it never was.

As an aside about preventive measures for good health, back in the good old days there used to be notices forbidding spitting on buses.
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gremlin wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:53 am The problem with common sense is that it isn't that common, unfortunately.
... and that people confuse it with "street smarts", "university of life", "stuff what I reckon" and "I'm tired of scientists and their facts!"
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Skub wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:17 pm When you attend any parent/teacher meetings,the teacher can only address you in the same manner they do with their pupils,they even make you sit on little chairs to underline the point,they are in charge.
I sent my dad to pick up my eldest from primary school once, as I was running late, and as it turned out we both arrived in the playground at the same time. Eldest's teacher was there to meet us and she started on telling us about some minor discrepancy he'd been involved in using some weird & supposedly inclusive third person type grammar and syntax. It was my dad's first experience of how, some, primary schools had "modernised" by the 90s, and he's quite blunt, he basically told her to stop being ridiculous and that shut her up and we left. I think I'd been anaesthetised to it by that point ...
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Our lass took up teaching at 32 and went in with worldly experience. Some of the other teachers were a bit wet behind the ears ;)
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DefTrap wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:37 pm some weird & supposedly inclusive third person type grammar and syntax
Don't blame the teacher. It will be on the government-imposed national curriculum, tested by SATS and enforced by OFSTED.
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Horse wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:02 pm
DefTrap wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:37 pm some weird & supposedly inclusive third person type grammar and syntax
Don't blame the teacher. It will be on the government-imposed national curriculum, tested by SATS and enforced by OFSTED.
I blame the phased withdrawal of leather elbow patches, halitosis and blackboard rubber throwing on all teaching ills.
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Horse wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:02 pm
DefTrap wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:37 pm some weird & supposedly inclusive third person type grammar and syntax
Don't blame the teacher. It will be on the government-imposed national curriculum, tested by SATS and enforced by OFSTED.
It's possible but AFAIR they didn't all suffer from it.
It doesn't matter anyway, both my boys turned out alright, so it's petty whinging on my part. I wouldn't be a teacher for all the tea in China (although those fat pensions, short work days and long holidays must be aces. ;) )
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gremlin wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:23 pm
Horse wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:02 pm
DefTrap wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:37 pm some weird & supposedly inclusive third person type grammar and syntax
Don't blame the teacher. It will be on the government-imposed national curriculum, tested by SATS and enforced by OFSTED.
I blame the phased withdrawal of leather elbow patches, halitosis and blackboard rubber throwing on all teaching ills.
aah - that takes me back... the "whizz-ping" of the piece of chalk as it flies past your ear and disintegrates on the wall behind......
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DefTrap wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:42 pm (although those fat pensions, short work days and long holidays must be aces. ;) )
Still not enough to entice people to join, and stay in, the profession. Odd, eh? ;)
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Horse wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:56 pm Still not enough to entice people to join, and stay in, the profession. Odd, eh? ;)
Funnily enough, two of my nieces want to be teachers, almost straight out of uni.
Not for me, I briefly thought about it when I left uni myself - and I clearly remember being interviewed for a place on a teacher training course as even back then they were desperate to get fresh meat onboard. The incentives seemed quite fruity when you're a skint ex-student and they're positively begging you to join up. The bloke said "are you sure you want to be a Maths teacher?" I pretty much decided there and then - not.
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DefTrap wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:11 pm The bloke said "are you sure you want to be a Maths teacher?" I pretty much decided there and then - not.
Ah, you're not autistic, then ;)
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My oldest friend (we were at school together) is a teacher. He's retired from the classroom but all those years of being 'in charge' and the most knowledgeable person in the room have left their mark. If he ever says 'Ah, but what you don't understand is....' to me again, I'll throttle him. :lol: If you do talk about something he's not 'the expert' on he'll look bored and change the subject!

Apparently it's quite a common thing with career long ones, they still think they're teaching.....

.....everybody. :(
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Horse wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 2:45 pm Ah, you're not autistic, then ;)
No, I'm just flamboyant.
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Our lass was burnt out after 18 years and was only 50 when we came over here.
She put her heart and soul into and that effort took its toll.
We worked once that over a year, she did far more hours than me.
The pension is helping us right now ;)
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Greenman wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:46 am Does it still exist? - Do you apply it to your standard day?

I have just been over hearing a conversation between 4 LSA's in a school staffroom. They were complaining that everyone is ill all the time in schools and as they no longer have the covid rules in place it has made it worse.

They also then went onto say that as the advise to wash your hands etc before you eat is no longer in place it makes it worse!

Now - it might just be me, but i don't have to have someone to tell me how to run my life, when to clean my hands and when i should take precautions against things possibly happening to me and others, it's designed into me as common sense.

It almost seems to me now that the continued de-evolution of the human race has now got to the point where no-one actively wants to think for themselves anymore, it's like they all need a master to tell them what to do!

Do you see/feel this too?

Or is it just me?
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Yorick wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:00 pm Our lass was burnt out after 18 years and was only 50 when we came over here.
She put her heart and soul into and that effort took its toll.
We worked once that over a year, she did far more hours than me.
The pension is helping us right now ;)
Typical Tyke. Works the missus into the ground and then lives off her moral earnings.
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Bike Breaker wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:25 pm
then lives off her moral earnings.
He bought a property with a sex dungeon already set up. Lord knows what other plans he had :D
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Re: Common Sense

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Skub wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:17 pm
Greenman wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:46 am it's like they all need a master to tell them what to do!
When you attend any parent/teacher meetings,the teacher can only address you in the same manner they do with their pupils,they even make you sit on little chairs to underline the point,they are in charge.
lol.

I find the longer a teacher has been in education the more likely they are to be like you say.

I get on with almost everyone but some of the older militant hardcore educators i tend to just have to put up with. They, as you might not expect, are normally the ones fucking it up for the most who just want to give the kids a good education.