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Have you ever considered a bike that isn't a Trumpet?
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KungFooBob wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:11 pm Have you ever considered a bike that isn't a Trumpet?
Not for a while, no. I think the Street is in a class of it's own (it's my fourth). I have owed/ridden lots of other bikes.
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Trinity765 wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:02 pm For those that don't already know, I traded in the Speed for a Street Triple RS on Saturday.

I saw the Speed on the dealers website on Tuesday but now it's gone. I just phoned them to enquire and they said that a very happy customer had ridden away on it yesterday.

I think this is a lovely end to the story and everyone's a winner. I'm sure the new owner will be very happy with it. He won't even mind when he finds out that one of the rear indicators mists up as it may have got damp from an improperly fitted tail tidy :)

Meanwhile the Street sits peacefully in my garage waiting for the nice weather.
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weeksy wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:23 pm
Trinity765 wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:02 pm For those that don't already know, I traded in the Speed for a Street Triple RS on Saturday.

I saw the Speed on the dealers website on Tuesday but now it's gone. I just phoned them to enquire and they said that a very happy customer had ridden away on it yesterday.

I think this is a lovely end to the story and everyone's a winner. I'm sure the new owner will be very happy with it. He won't even mind when he finds out that one of the rear indicators mists up as it may have got damp from an improperly fitted tail tidy :)

Meanwhile the Street sits peacefully in my garage waiting for the nice weather.
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@Trinity765 How you liking the QS. ?
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Dodgy69 wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:15 pm @Trinity765 How you liking the QS. ?
Not used it on this bike but my last Street had one and I loved it. I could keep up with the litre bikes when accelerating as well as accelerate while still doing up my jacket etc.

Edit: If you meant is is smooth - the old one was so I would imagine this one is.
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I use a lot of up, not so much down...on the road.
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Dodgy69 wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 6:43 pm I use a lot of up, not so much down...on the road.
I've never used an auto-blipper and I don't know the advantage unless it's just faster than using the clutch. I change down several gears at a time - why is an auto-blipper better - if anyone knows?

The Street is a fantastic bike. I had the original Street MK1 which had nothing, not even ABS and I loved every second riding that bike and with 63K on the clock when I got rid of it, there was nothing at all wrong with it. The Streets have all been so much fun and I didn't know getting this one was going to make me so happy, but it has.
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Blippers are great for down shifting quick. Most useful on track when heavy braking for a hairpin or summot like. 👍
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Trinity765 wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:02 pm
Meanwhile the Street sits peacefully in my garage waiting for the nice weather.
Since when have you waited till the weather is decent to ride a bike ;)

Happy New bike day :thumbup:
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I'm a bit meh about the quick shifter on my Honda, changing up it's smooth for the gearbox, but when you take pressure off the lever the power comes in very hard, making the back end squat.

Changing down is good if you're on the brakes, but if you're just changing down to slow the bike you're better off using the clutch.

There was a bike like Trinity's outside the Triumph dealers near mine tonight, they look better in real life.
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Trinity765 wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:20 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:11 pm Have you ever considered a bike that isn't a Trumpet?
Not for a while, no. I think the Street is in a class of it's own (it's my fourth). I have owed/ridden lots of other bikes.
Haven't you had problems with every Triumph you've owned though? Or am I remembering wrong?

I've got three Trumpets by the way and none are that well made :lol:
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:35 am
Trinity765 wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:20 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:11 pm Have you ever considered a bike that isn't a Trumpet?
Not for a while, no. I think the Street is in a class of it's own (it's my fourth). I have owed/ridden lots of other bikes.
Haven't you had problems with every Triumph you've owned though? Or am I remembering wrong?

I've got three Trumpets by the way and none are that well made :lol:
2009 Street Triple, 1 warranty claim = R&R
2012 Street Triple R, no warranty claims though it was never the same after dropping it in a ford - not Triumph's fault
2019 Street Triple RS. Clutch replaced under warranty at 12k miles even though there was nothing wrong with it. Clutch 2 had issues so clutch 3 was under warranty. Cams replaced under warranty and when they started to go again I ran away in tears and got the Speed Twin. It was a stressful situation at a stressful time in my life and very much a blot on my relationship with Triumph.

I had a chat with the service centre when negotiating for this bike. I explained that I would be straight back at the slightest new noise or rattle. I said that I look after my bikes, because I do, and I change the oil between services - they said make sure you use good oil (which I do) and to use a Triumph oil filter - OK.

I rejected the extended warranty and told them that I shouldn't need one as I am protected by consumer rights.

I know that it's a Triumph and they are not the best built or most reliable bikes but that is the price I have decided to pay for the satisfaction I get riding it. It is the bike with the biggest grin factor in my humble opinion :obscene-drinkingcheers:
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Trinity765 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:13 amI know that it's a Triumph and they are not the best built or most reliable bikes but that is the price I have decided to pay for the satisfaction I get riding it. It is the bike with the biggest grin factor in my humble opinion :obscene-drinkingcheers:
Which is the whole point, is it not?
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Trinity765 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:13 am I know that it's a Triumph and they are not the best built or most reliable bikes but that is the price I have decided to pay for the satisfaction I get riding it. It is the bike with the biggest grin factor in my humble opinion :obscene-drinkingcheers:
I wonder why that should be.

Triumph have been around long enough now to have sorted unreliability issues. As a casual observer (I've never owned or ridden one) their bikes look to be well finished quality products,why are persistent issues not swiftly addressed instead of just offering warranty and keep fixing the recurring problems?

Years ago some build quality issues could be laid at the door of materials and machine tolerances,but we are way beyond that time now. Is it down to outsourcing the bikes to countries where cheap labour keeps the costs down? Triumph aren't the only ones to do that and others seem ok.

The Aprilia RSV4 Tuono is an example of another great bike to ride,yet has a well documented and horrendous reliability record and ever worsening build quality. It baffles me. Why spoil the ship for a ha'porth of tar?
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Lutin wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:51 am
Trinity765 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:13 amI know that it's a Triumph and they are not the best built or most reliable bikes but that is the price I have decided to pay for the satisfaction I get riding it. It is the bike with the biggest grin factor in my humble opinion :obscene-drinkingcheers:
Which is the whole point, is it not?
Yup... I've owned many 'quirky' and character building bikes from Tuonos, to 916s, many many KTMs and even with their faults/foibles, i'd own one again purely because they made me smile.

Weirdly though, the XSR900 still tops my list of 'bikes i'd go back to' purely because, not only was it brilliant and made me smile, but it was silky smooth and just very nice with it.
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I had a QS on my MT09 but hardly ever used it. Just couldn't get my head round the concept and it just felt wrong!?
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Making reliable vehicles is really really hard, I'd argue (from experience) it's quite a lot harder than making high performance ones.

Crucially reliability takes up an enormous amount of testing and development. You've got to make/test a lot of parts. There's also a huge amount of company know how involved. For example, it's not possible to test something for 30 years so you need to make an 'abridged' process which generates the same level of wear/damage. There's no one way to do that and much of it is 'house style'.

Someone like Honda (a) makes a shit load more bikes, (b) makes all kinds of other vehicles too and (c) have loads and loads of 'generic reliability engineers'. It almost deosnt' matter if they know about superbikes, car, planes, or lawnmowers, most of the principals are the same.

Relatively small companies like Triumph just don't have the same resources.

For ref: My Dad has had pretty much nothing but Hondas for the last 20 years. I don't recall him ever having a warranty claim.
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Trinity765 wrote: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:13 am
I know that it's a Triumph and they are not the best built or most reliable bikes but that is the price I have decided to pay for the satisfaction I get riding it. It is the bike with the biggest grin factor in my humble opinion :obscene-drinkingcheers:
That pretty much sums up my attitude to Street Triple ownership & why I try to keep the mileage down on my bike.
I love my Street Triple & so far it's not let me down,yet the only other Triumph I'd buy would be a 865 Bonnie.From talking to other owners & reading the forum's they can be fickle beasts...
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I bought the Speed with a logical head. A 1200cc Bonneville twin engine with Truxton tuning. If Triumph couldn't get that one right they couldn't really call themselves a bike manufacturer. If you take that engine and build an affordable bike around it, the Speed Twin was a very good effort. It was great to ride but had a small tank range and burnt my knees.

I bought the Street with my heart and a bottomless purse. I love the performance (which can't be overstated) and my face lit up when I saw that one under the spotlights in the showroom. I believe that I was set up and that the dealers purposely put it there knowing I was coming in.