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Re: Honda X-ADV 350 or 750

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Taipan wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:41 pm The 750 X-ADV isnt an auto like the 350 is. Its a DCT, which means you get direct drive. If you test ride one use Sport mode as D mode is what put people off of DCTs, although, should you own one, you'll find it has it uses. Familiarise yourself with the downshift button, which is where the indicators are, and use it to quickly downshift for overtakes. You can crack the throttle open to do this but there is more lag when doing it this way.

I think all XADVs have 3 sport modes and they dictate throttle response and up/downshift times. Take the time to get to know the system and how to use it. Putting it in D mode and just pootling along with superquick upshifts will probably put you off. The 750 is the same engine as the NC750X and S and is very low revving and it may not be enough for you after the MT? The Africa Twin is a completely different animal altogether. It is quite quick and very responsive in S3 mode but its a big old girl and not the best for filtering.
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Re: Honda X-ADV 350 or 750

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Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:44 pm
Taipan wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:41 pm The 750 X-ADV isnt an auto like the 350 is. Its a DCT, which means you get direct drive. If you test ride one use Sport mode as D mode is what put people off of DCTs, although, should you own one, you'll find it has it uses. Familiarise yourself with the downshift button, which is where the indicators are, and use it to quickly downshift for overtakes. You can crack the throttle open to do this but there is more lag when doing it this way.

I think all XADVs have 3 sport modes and they dictate throttle response and up/downshift times. Take the time to get to know the system and how to use it. Putting it in D mode and just pootling along with superquick upshifts will probably put you off. The 750 is the same engine as the NC750X and S and is very low revving and it may not be enough for you after the MT? The Africa Twin is a completely different animal altogether. It is quite quick and very responsive in S3 mode but its a big old girl and not the best for filtering.
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Re: Honda X-ADV 350 or 750

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I've seen a few odd bikes on the road lately, reckon the owner's must have a screw loose or two. 😁👍
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Re: Honda X-ADV 350 or 750

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Taipan wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 6:41 pm The 750 X-ADV isnt an auto like the 350 is. Its a DCT, which means you get direct drive. If you test ride one use Sport mode as D mode is what put people off of DCTs, although, should you own one, you'll find it has it uses. Familiarise yourself with the downshift button, which is where the indicators are, and use it to quickly downshift for overtakes. You can crack the throttle open to do this but there is more lag when doing it this way.

I think all XADVs have 3 sport modes and they dictate throttle response and up/downshift times. Take the time to get to know the system and how to use it. Putting it in D mode and just pootling along with superquick upshifts will probably put you off. The 750 is the same engine as the NC750X and S and is very low revving and it may not be enough for you after the MT? The Africa Twin is a completely different animal altogether. It is quite quick and very responsive in S3 mode but its a big old girl and not the best for filtering.
Sounds good to me.
I think it maybe enough after the MT, the 350 was not far off of what I want, the 750 must be quite a bit quicker.

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formula400 wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:05 pm If and it’s a big “IF” I like this 350, can you haggle or negotiate when buying a new bike. Never bought a brand new one I don’t think.
Yes if you are Weeksy and some others on here. I'm crap at it though. I normally get around this by buying bikes as the model is being replaced got a large discount buying my 690 and GSXS as new models were coming out.
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formula400 wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 8:05 pm If and it’s a big “IF” I like this 350, can you haggle or negotiate when buying a new bike. Never bought a brand new one I don’t think.
If they won't budge on price, ask for some freebies. Maybe a free helmet or service.
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And now a Forza 750 has been thrown into the mix.

Basically they are the same bike, one is a bit off roady and the other is a scooter.
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Is the 750 more of a 'must have' or a 'want'? Looking at your commute, you have 6 miles on the A3, is 70/80mph not enough? The other 10 miles is city, where I would think the 350 would be far more nimble and easier to ride than the 750?
I have a 12 mile commute and there honestly isn't any point that I think I needed anything more than my 300.

As for discounts, not a lot of chance, I think they're pretty much selling everything they can get in scooter wise these days. I did manage to get £300 off my brand new Xmax, but the dealer cocked it up, told me that's how much it would be, then there was such a delay in the scooters release, I think he would have felt awkward asking me for full price. I very nearly cancelled my order and went with a Honda. And the Yamaha dealer knew it.
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Re: Honda X-ADV 350 or 750

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If you want the 750, buy it, it doesn't matter what you need, what you want is the important thing.
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Re: Honda X-ADV 350 or 750

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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:56 pm If you want the 750, buy it, it doesn't matter what you need, what you want is the important thing.
That.

I bought what I needed for a car when the kids were little. The car was for me to drive alone to work and back, Mrs had the family car, and I ended up driving a Hyundai i10 for 6 years.
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It's handy (with cars mainly) if there's a little overlap between what you need and what you want though. :D
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Nordboy wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:34 pm Is the 750 more of a 'must have' or a 'want'? Looking at your commute, you have 6 miles on the A3, is 70/80mph not enough? The other 10 miles is city, where I would think the 350 would be far more nimble and easier to ride than the 750?
I have a 12 mile commute and there honestly isn't any point that I think I needed anything more than my 300.

As for discounts, not a lot of chance, I think they're pretty much selling everything they can get in scooter wise these days. I did manage to get £300 off my brand new Xmax, but the dealer cocked it up, told me that's how much it would be, then there was such a delay in the scooters release, I think he would have felt awkward asking me for full price. I very nearly cancelled my order and went with a Honda. And the Yamaha dealer knew it.
Want.

70/80 is enough, but I would want to go France or the likes on it, also as soon as I pulled away I knew it was not for me. still liked it though.
best ever bike ive had for commuting was the GSXR 750.
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Re: Honda X-ADV 350 or 750

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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 3:56 pm If you want the 750, buy it, it doesn't matter what you need, what you want is the important thing.
I think this is the way forward.
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Re: Honda X-ADV 350 or 750

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My bro had the 800cc bmw scooter for a while. That had plenty of power maybe worth a look
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If you're commuting every day on a bike, it needs to one you enjoy riding. Otherwise it becomes a chore rapidly and you'll hate every minute. That's how to kill your love of riding bikes.

Commute on the bike you love to ride.
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formula400 wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 8:08 pm Want.

70/80 is enough, but I would want to go France or the likes on it, also as soon as I pulled away I knew it was not for me. still liked it though.
I went on a furrin trip (on my K100RT, in the company of a K1100LT and ...

... a 450cc BMW twin with a full (heavy) touring fairing.

I felt the pain that you anticipate :)
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Re: Honda X-ADV 350 or 750

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formula400 wrote: Fri Sep 08, 2023 7:42 am And now a Forza 750 has been thrown into the mix.

Basically they are the same bike, one is a bit off roady and the other is a scooter.
All the 750s are the same engine box just different chassis.
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