But telling it like it is brings out the truth from the other person via a spontanious reaction, so we all can learn from being straight up and blunt whilst still being respectfull, if the other person deserves respect that is...Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:09 am The trouble with "telling it like it is" is that there is very seldom one "it" in real life.
You're basically just saying "telling it like I think, but with no acceptance there might be another viewpoint".
When was the last time you Offended someone?
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My most eloquent posts are done through the art of mime.Screwdriver wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:20 am
The written word appears to have a mind of its own (probably the one in the listeners head) and may have a different "meaning" to them than the standard English dictionary version.
Even bland can be a type of character 
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I don't think I offend people, nobody has complained about or to me in a very long time and I try to be nice to everyone. I am quite loud and swear a lot so maybe I offend that way but no one says anything
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I used to run courses on communication skills.Greenman wrote: Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:49 pmSpot on.Rockburner wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:29 amTone of voice, situational context and body language.Screwdriver wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 9:20 am
Actually an interesting question for me. In real life, I am extremely happy go lucky. Bit of a scatterbrain and hopelessly disorganised, virtually everything I say is made in good humour and even the darkest subject can be spun into a light hearted funny.
Somehow and I honestly do not know why, this does not translate into the written word. I think it must be to do with the careful choice of the correct wording and an attempt to keep my propositions logically precise.
The written word appears to have a mind of its own (probably the one in the listeners head) and may have a different "meaning" to them than the standard English dictionary version.
Those are all missing from forum communication. But they make up over half the "transmission of meaning" in a face to face discussion.
That's why you have to be very careful about wording etc online.
It's a shame we all converse on here (internet) mainly instead of having close face to face conversations these days...
Tech is good in many ways but in reality and in relation to our social ways of life and mental health it's not been the best for the past 20 years right?
Wording however i think has to be able to be expressed freely to be able to get over those expressions electronically so can't be part of a 'banning' regime.
Two things spring to mind.
Always try to deliver your message in a way that you feel comfortable saying, whilst the recipient is also comfortable and open to receiving the message.
Some one far smarter than I said.
"I will remember you not for what you say but how you make me feel "
In my humble view, we don't communicate to convey and discuss, it's become more of a declaration of opinions, belief, based on a current virtue set. There's a pseudo fashion to how you present yourself and it has to align or you risk being called 'offensive'.
There's many things that I miss my Dad for, but the most important in this context is our robust and open discussions, where he helped shape me for the future. Never trying to tell me what to think, but how to think and express my views whilst respecting the other person.
Odd, really, because I don't do social media and yet here I am, sticking my neck out on dear old RTTL. Funny world ain't it.
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This is a brilliant post. Thank you. I'm not great with words really, struggle to write (and to say sometimes) what I really want to. But that phrase you posted is something I try and remember a lot -Buckaroo wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 5:32 pm
I used to run courses on communication skills.
Two things spring to mind.
Always try to deliver your message in a way that you feel comfortable saying, whilst the recipient is also comfortable and open to receiving the message.
Some one far smarter than I said.
"I will remember you not for what you say but how you make me feel "
In my humble view, we don't communicate to convey and discuss, it's become more of a declaration of opinions, belief, based on a current virtue set. There's a pseudo fashion to how you present yourself and it has to align or you risk being called 'offensive'.
There's many things that I miss my Dad for, but the most important in this context is our robust and open discussions, where he helped shape me for the future. Never trying to tell me what to think, but how to think and express my views whilst respecting the other person.
Odd, really, because I don't do social media and yet here I am, sticking my neck out on dear old RTTL. Funny world ain't it.
"I will remember you not for what you say but how you make me feel "
And like others on here - I swear WAYYYYY more than I 'should', but I generally try and wind it back when I might offend someone!! LOL
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Maybe I'm the social retard as youve ever even come close to offending meTaff wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:40 am When was the last time I offended someone?
Seemingly, every time I open my mouth or post something, so I sit in silence a lot and don't post much here or anywhere else. Nearly every time I log on here I write a reply and delete it before posting.
My wife used to call me a 'social retard'.
It's a real source of anxiety.
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@Taff me neither!!!weeksy wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:13 pmMaybe I'm the social retard as youve ever even come close to offending meTaff wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:40 am When was the last time I offended someone?
Seemingly, every time I open my mouth or post something, so I sit in silence a lot and don't post much here or anywhere else. Nearly every time I log on here I write a reply and delete it before posting.
My wife used to call me a 'social retard'.
It's a real source of anxiety.
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Could be worse, at least you're not Welsh...weeksy wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:13 pmMaybe I'm the social retard as youve ever even come close to offending meTaff wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:40 am When was the last time I offended someone?
Seemingly, every time I open my mouth or post something, so I sit in silence a lot and don't post much here or anywhere else. Nearly every time I log on here I write a reply and delete it before posting.
My wife used to call me a 'social retard'.
It's a real source of anxiety.
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weeksy wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:13 pm
Maybe I'm the social retard as youve ever even come close to offending me
I'm really pleased of this, maybe we haven't spent enough time together
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Me neither. You should post more and worry less.weeksy wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 6:13 pmMaybe I'm the social retard as youve ever even come close to offending meTaff wrote: Sat Jan 28, 2023 10:40 am When was the last time I offended someone?
Seemingly, every time I open my mouth or post something, so I sit in silence a lot and don't post much here or anywhere else. Nearly every time I log on here I write a reply and delete it before posting.
My wife used to call me a 'social retard'.
It's a real source of anxiety.
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Nah, from what I remember from meeting a couple (few) times, don't think you could offend me - unless you actually REALLY tried!! Even then, probably not!
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There's a big difference in expressing a considered opinion that invites discussion to just being a rude prick to get a rise out of people and/or to create disagreement.Greenman wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:08 pmYeah of course...I'm a straight talking man, i am the problem for many in a conversation, if they are talking complete shit!weeksy wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:02 pmHave you ever thought it's you who has the problem? Not the ones who don't want to offend?Greenman wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 9:34 pm No matter how small...Did you tell them how you thought about them today or did you tell them what they wanted to hear?
So many people are afraid to express their opinions these days, but the best of us must continue on being who we are, no matter what others think, by telling it how it is!
Do you tell people how it is in real life (not on here) and if not why do you choose to be so polite in 2023?
You're too busy playing the hard done to bloke who thinks the world owes him to see that if there's 5 people in the room, only one of them is an arsehole, not 4.
This is what i mean in the thread title, do you speak up, or do you go along with what the majority think is the correct thing to say?
Are you really you in real life?
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Of course, hence in my reply i stated 'if they are talking shit'.dern wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:32 amThere's a big difference in expressing a considered opinion that invites discussion to just being a rude prick to get a rise out of people and/or to create disagreement.Greenman wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:08 pmYeah of course...I'm a straight talking man, i am the problem for many in a conversation, if they are talking complete shit!weeksy wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:02 pm
Have you ever thought it's you who has the problem? Not the ones who don't want to offend?
You're too busy playing the hard done to bloke who thinks the world owes him to see that if there's 5 people in the room, only one of them is an arsehole, not 4.
This is what i mean in the thread title, do you speak up, or do you go along with what the majority think is the correct thing to say?
Are you really you in real life?
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based upon your opinion ?Greenman wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:15 amOf course, hence in my reply i stated 'if they are talking shit'.dern wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:32 amThere's a big difference in expressing a considered opinion that invites discussion to just being a rude prick to get a rise out of people and/or to create disagreement.Greenman wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 10:08 pm
Yeah of course...I'm a straight talking man, i am the problem for many in a conversation, if they are talking complete shit!
This is what i mean in the thread title, do you speak up, or do you go along with what the majority think is the correct thing to say?
Are you really you in real life?
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Of course, just like every human being on the planet!weeksy wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:16 ambased upon your opinion ?Greenman wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:15 amOf course, hence in my reply i stated 'if they are talking shit'.dern wrote: Wed Feb 01, 2023 10:32 am
There's a big difference in expressing a considered opinion that invites discussion to just being a rude prick to get a rise out of people and/or to create disagreement.
Do you ring your mrs to confirm an opinion on something, do you ring 999 if you have an opinion someone might not agree with?
