In her defence, my missus is a very good driver and has had all kinds of tanks in the past with no trouble. But, as discussed before, cars are getting bigger and parking spaces and roads are not. There are only so many Waitrose spaces that'll comfortably fit a 2m+ wide SUV.Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:14 pm Plus you can actually park it.
It's half way between comedy and tragedy, watching all the mums and dads (and it is both) failing to manoeuvre their X5s and Cayennes around the school car park.
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In fairness, I'm a big fan generally of my car coming along with meMr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:32 pmIf you actually work out how much of the fuel in a car moves you and not just the car itself it's tiny. Like 1% tiny!
Our current 'family' car for three of us is a Fiat 500. In the main, it's fine. All cars are large these days. We've done about 30k miles in the last couple of years in it all round the country.
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They're in a class of their own...the 'mighty' class IIRC.
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Yes, the ugliest SUV ever made....
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When I'm merrily bimbling along the road, it is handy if the car comes along tooSlenver wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:25 pmIn fairness, I'm a big fan generally of my car coming along with meMr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:32 pmIf you actually work out how much of the fuel in a car moves you and not just the car itself it's tiny. Like 1% tiny!
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Does make you realise just how much money you waste though. Couple of pence in every litre of fuel you buy is actually "useful".Slenver wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:25 pmIn fairness, I'm a big fan generally of my car coming along with meMr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:32 pmIf you actually work out how much of the fuel in a car moves you and not just the car itself it's tiny. Like 1% tiny!
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It's not a waste, it's a use.Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:36 pmDoes make you realise just how much money you waste though. Couple of pence in every litre of fuel you buy is actually "useful".Slenver wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:25 pmIn fairness, I'm a big fan generally of my car coming along with meMr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:32 pmIf you actually work out how much of the fuel in a car moves you and not just the car itself it's tiny. Like 1% tiny!
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Nope, it's wasted I'd say.
60-80% of the fuel you buy does nothing more than heat up the air around your car. Unless you're trying to very badly heat your garage, I'd call that a waste
Of the remaining 20-40% only a tiny fraction of that moves you, which is presumably why you're in the car. The rest is for dragging the car about. The point of the journey is to move you, not all the other bits, is it not?
60-80% of the fuel you buy does nothing more than heat up the air around your car. Unless you're trying to very badly heat your garage, I'd call that a waste
Of the remaining 20-40% only a tiny fraction of that moves you, which is presumably why you're in the car. The rest is for dragging the car about. The point of the journey is to move you, not all the other bits, is it not?
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It's not wasted, it's used. It's used to take you and stuff a distance you can't walk or can't do on public transport.
If it was wasted, it'd be doing it with no one in the car at all.
If it was wasted, it'd be doing it with no one in the car at all.
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Is it 4wd, do you need 4wd or the ground clearance ? What's wrong with an estate car ?
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There's some irony in that much of what gets called an SUV these days is neither sporty nor utilitarian.
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People buy what they want but when a vehicle is more expensive, less economical and less safe why would you just because it looks cooler to you ?Mr. Dazzle wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:50 pmThere's some irony in that much of what gets called an SUV these days is neither sporty nor utilitarian.
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It's a good thing you don't work for the OEMs
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Oh, I'd say it's got a way to go before it challenges the Lada Niva for that title.
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Count Steer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:07 pmOh, I'd say it's got a way to go before it challenges the Lada Niva for that title.
Or the G Wagon?
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Just the ground clearance, it'll be 2wd. A normal estate would be fine, with either a lift kit or under body protection.
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Or just get a 911 Dakar.
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Someone at Porsche needs shooting for that "Roughroads" thing.
Other than that, top marks to them.
Other than that, top marks to them.
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Need to learn the secret handshake brother
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If I had £250k to spend on a car I would, I know how much they are because I looked at the Porsche site a couple of evenings ago. Still not as much ground clearance as a Duster though.